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Break things off with New Boyfriend after our date?

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NCFTP1 · 16/04/2017 10:15

WARNING LONG POST!! (and slightly personal)

So, I recently started seeing someone, I am currently pregnant with my ex's baby, but that ended a long time ago as he started drinking excessively and becoming physically abusive (this only started after I got pregnant). Anyway..

We wen't out yesterday for our normal date/day, And before we even made it to lunch, He had already drunk 3 (alcoholic) drinks and already slightly drunk (He hadn't eaten all day) and tried to get all Touchy. I wouldn't have minded, but things like trying to stick his hand down my trousers in a fully packed restaurant in front of people made me uncomfortable. I told him this, and he wouldn't stop.

Admittedly, The night before we are talking quite rudely :$ but I made clear to him nothing would happen the next day due to the fact we were going to be in public and I'm not comfortable with being sexual in public.. plus I'm 8 months pregnant.. and even though we talk rude sometimes, He knows full well im not ready for physical stuff at the moment, Something he says he understands and will wait for. Yes, I was beginning to feel comfortable with the idea of sex with him, but now I have just lost all trust.

During dinner he would ''playfully'' (to him, but not me) dig his nails into my hand or bite my fingers to the point of really hurting me and then made a comment about ''How can I be submissive during sex if I couldn't handle him being dominant''. It's a completely different situation.

We decided to go for a walk and ended up in another pub where he had another 4 drinks. But this time, he was slurring words, Walking into doors.. he was drunk, But whenever I tried to say ''We should call it a day..(even though it was only 4 o'clock in the afternoon and we only met up at 12.30pm) He would tell me to stop making comments about him drinking because it made him feel bad. This was all just putting me in a bad place as it was like being with my ex again.

Nether the less, I didn't stand up and leave.. mainly because i'd have felt bad leaving him there like that.

Soon the conversation turned into ''I think we should get a hotel next week''. I tried to shrug the conversation off as it wasn't the time nor place, It turned into him TELLING me that once my son was born, I should go on birth control because he didn't want kids. I explained that I couldn't take the pill (as I tried before and it didn't react well to my body) and the idea of the implant or coil wasn't something I liked.. But said I'd think about it. He just continued to pressure me, Until I just shut down and stopped talking until he got the message and dropped it.

He decided to miss his bus and stay longer, Which I didn't like because it meant he had to spend a ton of money on taxi's to get home.. and I just wanted to go home at this point. We went for a walk, hoping that maybe we could just .. be normal for a bit, But then he suggested another pub. I completely shut down the idea (though he wouldnt stop suggesting it) and we went and sat down by the river.

Thats when things just got to much for me. He kept asking me to put my hand down his trousers and touch him, I kept saying no, He tried to force my hand and I pulled away. He started getting a little too rough and hurting me (By grabbing my hands or gripping my chin for kisses). When we were sat down, Despite me saying No, Stop, He shoved his hand down my trousers.

He started asking for ''proper'' kisses, which were kissing with tongue, Not something I've ever liked, and again, I said no. I didn't want to and just from kissing his lips, I could smell and taste the alcohol, At which point, He grabbed my face and tried to force his tongue into my mouth, I pushed him away but he wouldn't stop, eventually, I had to scream for him to stop, and he did. I started crying and he apologized and told me not to shout ''Stop or No'' because we were in public and people were looking. I felt completely unsafe.

After that I was pretty cold towards him while he kept saying sorry and I walked back to my bus to go home. He came with because he didn't want me to walk alone. I couldn't stop him, So I just ignored him.

He DID say how because he bought me an Easter egg, He deserved what he wanted and I shouldn't talk rude with him, if when we meet I wasn't going to do anything (though what we spoke about the night before had nothing to do with being anything when we met) . He made me feel like it was my fault and I was a tease or something, Which, Is playing on my mind. I just feel that... Even if we did talk a certain way the night before, Should It mean I should put up with that he did? Is it my fault? Was he this way simply because he had to much to drink?

To make it all worse, When I got home, My mum told me that our family dog had passed away while I was out, I was completely crushed, and I messaged him (IDK way, Maybe for someone to talk to) ... He has yet to reply. I messaged him again this morning and said we shouldn't be together anymore.

AIBU? Am I to blame for what happened? :'(

OP posts:
R2G · 16/04/2017 12:59

You have done really well to stop two abusive relationships in their tracks. I hope you get someone lovely as you deserve in the future.

Panetulipani · 16/04/2017 13:08

Delete his details from your phone so you are not tempted to contact him again. This is not a relationship I anticipate developing into anything good in the future. If he is this dismissive of your boundaries and this disrespectful of you in public, that will only get worse. The fact he didn't want you saying "no" or "stop" where people could hear should tell you that he knew when he was doing it, despite being drunk, that what he was doing was not acceptable to you, or to those around you. What you do in the bedroom between consenting adults is nobody else's business. How you interact in public with a partner should be negotiable. He wasn't willing to negotiate, nor allow you to decide what you were comfortable doing. If this is early in the relationship, that should be a very loud, all bells and whistles klaxon sounding a warning that this person will not respect your wishes moving forward. Particularly in a D/S relationship, that is not an appropriate or safe dynamic. Pregnancy aside, please be very, very careful. This person is not likely to be a good or responsible Dominant - the alcohol alone is a concern, and I would fear for your personal safety if you continue to see them.

Willow2017 · 16/04/2017 14:07

You did absolitely the right thing, that man is vile.

If he thinks a dom/sub relationship means hurting you and forcing you into sexual acts in public I shudder to think what he expects in private.

He is a bully and a completely clueless douche bag.

Do not respond to any attempts by him to 'make up', 'explain' or apologise. He is dangerous, protect yourself at all costs. You deserve a man who likes/loves you for who you are not for what he wants you to be. Please dont ever put up with someone crossing your boundaries ever again. Just up and leave, you owe them nothing, they owe you respect or they can go to hell.

Good luck with the baby, you will do fine on your own trust yourself. Flowers

GrandDesespoir · 16/04/2017 14:11

YABU. He bought you an Easter egg for crying out loud - of course you should have put out.

No, I'm not serious of course. He sounds utterly, utterly vile. He has no shame, no morals and no self-restraint.

Sammysilver · 16/04/2017 14:23

OP, you need to do the Freedom Programme for victims of domestic abuse. You've described being in an abusive relationship previously. This will equip you with insight that would forewarn you against men like these. Wish you all the best with your baby.

user1490817136 · 16/04/2017 14:24

Hi OP.

Congratulations on your pregnancy , I'm sure you'll be a wonderful mum.

You are definitely not a fault for this pig's behaviour but I do think some responsibility must fall with you - it's your responsibility to protect yourself and to know how to. You need to be in tune with your body and realise the difference between nerves and butterflies and that knot in your stomach that happens when you encounter an abusive person. You need to learn how to draw a metaphorical line in THICK marker pen , and you need to act when anybody crosses it!

Unfortunately being a young mum-to-be does make you vulnerable. I know it shouldn't , but it does.

Take career yourself OP , and good luck with the birth of your son Flowers

user1490817136 · 16/04/2017 14:26

Many typos! Sorry.

lucyandpoppy123 · 16/04/2017 14:29

The man doesn't understand the word no - avoid avoid avoid!
As for putting his hands down your pants in public - ew! And if he was a real 'dominant' he would understand the importance of boundaries!

LoveDeathPrizes · 16/04/2017 14:40

Wow. No. Never let this man near you or your baby again.

Miniwookie · 16/04/2017 14:43

Good luck with your new baby OP. Well done for dumping the scumbag Flowers

ZilphasHatpin · 16/04/2017 14:56

Fwiw when I read he wanted to book a hotel room for next week my blood ran cold for you OP. I don't think it's over dramatic to say that would have been a very unpleasant experience for you. There really is no doubt about what he planned to happen in that room.

HowSmug · 16/04/2017 15:01

OP
I'm definitely not going to be dating any time soon!

That's a good plan. Concerntrate on your new baby and yourself.

228agreenend · 16/04/2017 15:20

This is not your fault.

He doesn't respect you at all. It's all about him and what he wants.

Dump,him at once. He is not right for you.

Concentrate on you and your baby.

glumbumm · 16/04/2017 15:31

You're well rid, OP. Well done zz

Littlefoxy · 16/04/2017 18:19

Just echoing the previous advice to avoid this man. If you don't draw a line here, he'll see it as a green light & his behaviour will escalate. I work in domestic abuse & it sounds like your relationship with him would head in that direction. Really if you're asking whether to dump him, you've already got your answer as something is telling you not to go further. I went on a date years ago where similarly he pushed for me to stay later than I wanted. He also made me feel very sorry for him & tried to guilt trip me into another date. I declined & received a load of abusive texts in return. I realised I dodged a bullet though by not being sucked in. don't give him another chance, he's shown his colours.

Littlefoxy · 16/04/2017 18:35

And I disagree that you are attracting the wrong men. It doesn't work like that. Any of us could end up on a date with someone who is (see above I was a domestic abuse worker when I ended up on date with mr abusive texts). The only thing we can do is know our boundaries & assert them. Know what your 'rules' are and anyone who tries to manipulate, bully or persuade you to change those rules needs to be avoided. That can be harder after an abusive relationship so women's aid can offer you advice & support with that. I think it's important you know it's not your fault but equally there are tools you can learn to protect yourself

Ohyesiam · 16/04/2017 20:16

Op, you need to think about consent, and what it means. The night before your date you talked dirty with this guy, and you consented to doing that. The next day he acted like, and said, that meant you wanted to get physical with him.
Because you consented to one thing, it doesn't mean you have to feel uncomfortable about saying no to other things . or feel like you are doing something wrong.
Imagine you came to my house and I offered you a cup of tea , you said yes , and had some tea. How would it be if I then started stuffing food in your face, and when you protested, started shouting in your face
" but you were happy to take my tea! I really wanted to feed you then. What's wrong with my food? Everyone I know eats and drinks together. There's something wrong with you. "
Ok it's a crazy example, but do you get what I'm trying to say?

Look on the Mighty Girl website, they have a great section on consent. I think it will make your life a lot easier.

SailAwayWithMeHoney · 16/04/2017 20:35

I second everything Littlefoxy said. Absolutely everything.

Also don't be surprised if he tries to glaze over the fact you've ended it, or tries to win you back in some way, but don't let him. If it helps you, the moment he tries to "fix" this or persuade you to change your mind (love-bombing, promises to change, promises to stop drinking, blaming it all on the drink, whatever it might be) come back to this thread and re-read what you've written and remind yourself why you've ended it. It very, very rarely gets better, it tends to get worse if these are the early warning signs, as Littlefoxy.
You've done nothing to warrant his behaviour. Flowers

April229 · 16/04/2017 20:36

God this is awful, you were sexually harassed by an alcoholic and then experienced the loss of a family pet.

Block him, and move on.

ZilphasHatpin · 16/04/2017 20:46

I think the fact you had to explicitly state the night before lunch that "nothing would happen the next day due to the fact we were going to be in public" was a massive alarm bell that would have had me running for the hills and if you ever find yourself having to say that again you should to. You shouldn't need to tell anyone that you aren't interested in anything sexual in public! Anyone with an ounce of decency would not want to be initiating sex in public. We all go about our daily lives with the assumption that nothing sexual will be happening in public. The fact you had to state this to him is very worrying. Please do some work on your boundaries and your assertiveness. And also if possible find a course/programme that helps you identify warning signals in men.

FlyingElbows · 16/04/2017 20:55

Op you "read" very familiar. Have you written threads about your ex here before? If you're who I think you are then I'd advise that you need to just concentrate on you and your baby and keep yourself out of complicated drama situations with unsuitable men. Your life is about to get a lot more serious without all the additional stresses.

JaneEyre70 · 16/04/2017 21:04

Well done OP you've made the right decision here. Imagine trying to deal with that when you've just given birth - I shudder to think what he'd have tried to push you into.
You have an amazing new life to celebrate coming into your world. Enjoy every moment and concentrate on you and your precious baby Flowers.

Ohyesiam · 16/04/2017 22:34

Congratulations on your pregnancy,And well done on dumping him tooFlowers

SabineUndine · 16/04/2017 22:44

Goodness, you even need to ask? Dump him and go NC.

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