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Should I ask GP to sign me off?

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Justcurious000 · 03/04/2017 21:54

Really could do with someone to talk to about this, besides friends and family who are probably sick of hearing it. I feel so low and don't know at to do. I am 36 weeks pregnant, my job is becoming increasingly stressful. I work 4 days per week but the workloads coming in lately are hideous and have been for a few weeks now. We are quite a lean team and others in my team feel the same, whereas some people don't have that much work to do. However our particular little team is always at the forefront of everything and are like the back bone of the department, as a result taking the most pressure.

Just lately there have been a few hiccups due to working at a fast pace and the increased workloads. I have been addressed about these hiccups which are genuine, and I've explained to my manager I feel these are down to me working too,quickly etc and wouldn't have happened otherwise. I am a long serving employee with a great track record, have won awards, got promoted etc. My other colleagues have made some equally as bad hiccups, which was just down to rushing etc as well. However these people are full time and my manager doesn't seem too fussed, i.e. they might get an email about it and thats it, whereas I'm asked to go to a meeting to discuss my issues. It seems my manager is a lot more focused on what I do wrong rather than anyone else. That's not paranoia or anything, that is how it is.

She accused me of trying to pass things over to other colleagues all of the time, which is absolutely way off the truth, I rarely pass things over, and am very conscious that i do the exact opposite. You can't challenge her as she's very outspoken and shoots you down quick and fast. She is piling the pressure onto me, constantly emailing me, micromanaging me, where are we at with this, have you actioned this (request from previous day which is extremely low priority) giving me increased work etc. One thing in particular was a project that was optional, but she then shouted across the office that she'd like me to do it to get exposure etc, despite me saying I am reluctant to take it on because of my work pattern and the fact I have a few days annual leave coming Up and I didn't want to delay the project, she insisted I do it. Making me feel bad by saying I already passed up the pervious project where a workshop fell on a day I had a hospital (baby related) appointment that I couldn't rearrange, I therefore had to pass this project onto someone else. She wasn't afraid to tell me that project was for 'me to manage around my part time hours' and she didn't understand why I couldn't have tried to get on another workshop a week later, I told her due to the project deadlines this wouldn't have been the sensible thing to do as it would be pushing things and that it made sense from the outset to decline it and let my very willing and eager colleague to take it on. After all this was optional and for exposure only and in her words this type of stuff shouldn't interfere with business as usual. This latest project is taking up SO much of my time and it isn't my business as usual job, it's something she's passed our way for 'the exposure'. It is taking up so much of my time, I can't do much of my other work and have had annual leave that I booked ages ago and had plans for, which is making it even more intense. I come back to emails from my colleagues with requests from clients that were emailed 3 days previous asking me to 'pick this up'. I tell my manager Im not too pleased with that and it also makes us look bad to the client that they've waited that long for a response and she agrees. Yet the very next day she emails my colleagues and copies me in asking them to do something urgent on Monday, but states as I am on annual leave that they are to forward their low priority work to me to action when I am back. It's like it's a deliberate disregard for what I said the day before.

In addition to this, I have had to leave some of my project work (the project I said I was worried to take on) with another colleague, who said she is More than happy to help while I am off. However I've seen an email today where this colleague has emailed my manager to say she's unsure what she has to do as she's had no information from me. I am puzzled because we had a detailed handover about it. All she needs to do is draft a letter for me and I've emailed her the bulk of what needs to go in it. My department can be extremely bitchy and we've had a couple of people submit grievances because of it. I feel like she has tried to stab me in the back.

I am just so fed up. I work to a ridiculous pace (so do my other 2 colleagues in fairness) but I feel my part time working is just not took into consideration, it is looked at as a hinderance to the team, and that impression I get from my manager more than anyone else. Just lately I never take a proper lunch break, engage in conversation with my colleagues because I am simply too busy, or even look at my phone for 5 mins on lunch etc. I am worrying about work all of the time, checking my emails on days off about 30-40 times a day to see what's coming in, or what I fear I may have messed up on etc due to rushing. I asked to get paid my annual leave because it's so busy but my manager said no, so I had to take it. It's pointless me taking holiday because I don't enjoy it anymore as all I do is think about work. It consumes me. I did tell my manager this and all she said is slow down and take my time. But then emails my colleagues inviting them to email me more work during my time off and she is always on my tail asking for updates, actions on everything.

I can't talk about work without getting quite upset about it. I feel people are now starting to become bitchy towards me for working less etc. I have an appointment at my GP tomorrow and I plan on asking to be signed off but I am nervous and not sure whether to. I've not had a sick day for 3 years and I'd never normally consider being signed off, but I am seriously worried my health is having an an effect on my unborn baby. My house is an absolute mess as I have no desire to clean etc, which for me is quite odd. What should I do?

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TipTop333 · 03/04/2017 22:46

Well they wouldn't exactly need 8 weeks notice if you gave birth tomorrow which lets face it, at 36 weeks isn't exactly impossible.
They will cope. Start your maternity leave.

smurfest · 03/04/2017 22:48

Start maternity leave! Why do you have to get signed off?

When I first started work back in the early 90s the done thing was to have around 6 or 7 weeks maternity leave. When did it become the norm to work right up to your due date?

CheesyChristie · 03/04/2017 22:51

They can't tell you that you can't start your maternity leave early. Just tell them you're planning to start it early and you want to do it properly and get handover done now. If they say you can't move then phone in sick.

Stop woorying about the repercussions of a company that gives absolutely no shits about your physical or emotional welfare.

Enjoy what's left of your pregnancy. Youll have a lovely little baby soon enough and all thoughts of work can piss off until the end of your maternity leave.

Doughnutsandrainbows · 03/04/2017 23:01

Another vote for just go. Life is too short to be stressed by work.

MrDacresEUSubsidy · 03/04/2017 23:04

You sound lovely and conscientious - and also overwhelmed.

Gloves off time; put yourself first. Your health and your baby's wellbeing are the priority here.

Email the cowbag manager and point out that you gace X a detailed handover of the work on Y date at Z time. Express concern that X does not seem to have recalled this when emailing cowbag manager. Sign off email with a bland "trust that this clarifies and will leave this with X to pick up as previously agreed".

Then self cert for 7 days. That'll take you to 37 weeks - and then I'd go to the GP and get signed off so that you can start your mat leave early. Fuck them - and I say that as a manager running a department. Your people are your priority as a manager and if you don't look after them then you shouldn't be managing in the first place.

Enjoy your mat leave and job hunt whilst you're off. Your working environment sounds utterly toxic and life really is too short to waste it working for vile people who are busy stepping on each other to impress a boss who doesn't give a shit about the happiness nor health of her workforce.

Coincidentally the biggest workplace bully I have ever encountered was a Project Manager. Even the HR Director was terrified of her. She got managed out in the end - but only after the organisation realised that the average tenure of a junior PM or BA in her team was 18 months.

Lulabell1979 · 03/04/2017 23:16

Your manager is an ineffective bitch who for some reason has issue with you. Do you think it is because she wants to pressure you to increase your hours? Or because you are going on mat leave and she can't cope already? Whatever it is it is her problem not yours. Just make sure you cover your back, copies of anything important emailed home and bcc yourself giving instructions to people so you have proof at home. Make sure your handover is clear and concise and email to your wider team and cc HR so is clear you are done.
I would definitely be getting signed off in your shoes, pretty sure midwife can do this or tell the GP to as my midwife offered! Just look after yourself me the baby as your priority.

Justcurious000 · 04/04/2017 06:55

Thanks everyone. I think this is what I'll do. Hopefully te GP will be supportive.

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glitterglitters · 04/04/2017 07:07

Baby > Job

picklemepopcorn · 04/04/2017 07:12

I'm sorry but they can't have eight weeks notice.

You are 36 weeks pregnant, they can see that, they know the implications.

They should be taking reasonable care of you, not piling on the pressure.

OhTheRoses · 04/04/2017 07:32

Do you have HR op.
I'm pretty sure 8 weeks notice will apply to the return date rather than the start date.
Go in and say that GP has advised you need a break but you want to hand over and forward all emails, put on your out if office and write a briefing note.

If you have holiday accrued and owing relating to the period before your mat leave you can take it before starting mat leave to delay the start date.

You also accrue contractual a/l during mat leave.
Can you see HR about the final details.

Your manager is being unreasonable btw and if she is treating you differently from the others while you are pg it's sex discrimination but don't go in all guns blazing.

You're heavily og, tired and emotional. You need to put you and the baby first now. If you are signed off now and it's pg related it's likely to trigger your mat leave in which case that accrued a/l has statutorily to be carried forward to the end of your mat leave.

peukpokicuzo · 04/04/2017 08:21

Your baby's health is more important. The stress of your toxic working environment is unhealthy.

Get signed off sick. Yes they will probably trigger your mat leave to start now. That's fine. The 8 weeks notice is for changes based on preferences not health decisions that your body doesn't give you notice for.

Start now and do not go in to work again.

The projects that will be left undone are not your problem. Your manager has poor management skills and directly caused this situation.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 04/04/2017 08:39

My midwife would have suggested starting ml at 30 weeks if I'd wanted. She was very sniffy about 38. I'm sure your GP will be fine about it.

BigGrannyPants · 04/04/2017 08:53

@Justcurious000 you don't need to give any notice to change the start date of your maternity leave. The 8 weeks notice is if you want to change the date of return. You should keep a diary, your manager is being unreasonable and should be taking your health and the health of your unborn baby in to account. Diary should be dates, times, who was there and just facts, not feelings. You should ask your manager to make any further requests in writing and take notes at any meeting you go to. If it ends up in a grievance this will greatly help your case. What she is doing is trying to manage you out the door, she is bullying you and pressurising you. The very fact she has singled you out from your colleagues who have made similar mistakes, tells me this is personal. Don't let her shoot you down, if you have something to say, write it down and tell her she can respond when you have finished reading it out, that way you will be able to say what you need to say but in a calm and measured way without getting thrown off track or drawn in to an argument. I went through something similar at work and did the above, she backed right off and never tried it again. I told her that her management style was chaotic and unorganised and that resulted in me having to ask for everything in writing because she couldn't remember chose not to remember conversations we had and then dug me up for doing what she had told me to do and denied the conversation. It was all very calm but she was left in no doubt I wouldn't be fucked about anymore

Justcurious000 · 04/04/2017 09:13

Well I've just been to the GP, was told to go in at 8:00 and wait to see a Gp but there are no appointments. Great. Told to go back tomorrow. How long could I be doing this for? Clearly not a priority case to the Gp. Argh.

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Sunshinegirl82 · 04/04/2017 09:19

You are right that your employer can only trigger mat leave if you are signed off for a pregnancy related reason. Generic stress is unlikely to be pregnancy related. That said, the whole environment sounds toxic so I think you just need to get out one way or another.

If you weren't pregnant I'd advise a grievance but I can imagine you don't need the hassle at this stage in the game. I'd give serious thought as to whether you want to return there.

Sunshinegirl82 · 04/04/2017 09:23

Can you call your midwife and explain? I was signed off over the phone when pregnant so she might be able to pull some strings? You can self certify for 7 days so if you can't cope just don't go in until you can get an appointment.

3luckystars · 04/04/2017 09:25

What would your husband know about being heavily pregnant and working ?
Your health and your baby are what's important now.

JennyOnAPlate · 04/04/2017 09:25

You can self certify for a week op, you don't need a doctor to sign you off straight away. Call in sick and see the doctor at some point this week.

ChicRock · 04/04/2017 09:32

You're making hard work of this.

Phone in sick - self certify.

Then after a day or two, contact work and tell them that you're still unwell so wish to start mat leave with immediate effect.

It's really that simple.

Wait4nothing · 04/04/2017 10:22

You can definitely start maternity whenever you want at this point - and as others have said - their bad management have caused any issues that may occur by you starting maternity earlier than expected - they may learn from their mistakes for next time!
If I were you I'd call in sick - then later that week ring hr directly to say you need to start maternity early due to health related issues - no further info necessary and no need to talk to your manager (who sounds awful!)
Do you need to return to gain additional maternity pay (I did) - if so return when needed and hand in notice at the same time - this isn't a place that's good for your emotional health pregnant or not (they are unlikely of being supportive of children issues!) - that way it would be daft to give you too much project work due to you leaving. Look for something better!
Enjoy your maternity leave and relaxing before your little one arrives!

Bantanddec · 04/04/2017 10:32

8 weeks notice? Never had this problem at work, just go on maternity leave, don't let your colleagues bullshit you with fake rules.

MrsELM21 · 04/04/2017 10:38

Just start your mat leave, I'd be looking for another job whilst you're off, this one doesn't sound great!

SlB09 · 04/04/2017 10:38

You sound like a very diligent employee and they sound lucky to have you - however sometimes this diligence leaves you giving way too much to work and to be blunty honest, you will be another cog in the wheel to your employer. They will carry on giving you as much work as you can get through until you either say no and mean it or you go off sick.

Any time off within 11 weeks of your due date your employer can trigger your mat leave automatically. My advice, see your GP and get signed off they dont have to put the actual reason. Ring your employer and say your Dr wants to sign you off but your willing to go in to tie up any loose ends for them and leave things in a,positive way.

You and your baby are the most important thing in all this. Best of luck x

passthewineplz · 04/04/2017 10:43

Try this GP online service, and ask for a fit to work note

www.pushdoctor.co.uk/what-we-treat

mirime · 04/04/2017 10:43

I was going to work until 38 weeks because I could only afford to take 7 months off and wanted add much time home with ds as possible. I was able to take a week's leave and finish at 37 weeks but I wish I'd stopped earlier - and my employer was generally supportive, it just happened to be an unusually busy time as we were re-branding and launching a new website.

Just stop work now.