To have already noticed prices rising?

[Destinysdaughter]

It's just a few things but since Xmas I've started to notice certain things costing more, some examples, I was given a nice bottle of wine from M&S which was £13, it's now £14. Also Body shop Chamomile cleansing oil was £10, is now £12 ( tho got it with a 40%off code)

Is this the start of the cost of living rising or are these isolated incidents?

Of course its more complex than that, but this is a mumsnet thread for christsake, not the IMF, get a grip.

Also, vibrant salad can be grown, from a half head of used lettuce, in a pot, on your windowsill. I wasnt talking about polytunnels and mass production for you g professionals FFS.

All I was alluding too, was that brexit is merely one of many factors involved in alleged 'rising grocery vibrant salad prices', as you quite rightly pointed out with your thorough dull explanation of macroeconomics and commodity prices etc...

Hmm so the more people put time and effort into explaining the reasons that yes, food prices are rising and this will get worse, the more rude and insulting you get flumperwotsit.

You will obviously get those 'Brexit at any cost' people who say that we've had it too good and we need to pay more and eat crapper food.

Many of us are worried about our already overstretched budgets and being told to suck it up.

No grip required thanks.

People saying 'don't be stupid, you know no one is sending migrants home....' you do realise that migrants are leaving in droves. And the numbers coming here have dropped dramatically? There's a particular crisis in the recruitment of nurses at present because of this. Farmers are panicking about next year's staff and the hotel industry is pretty anxious too.

oh here we go again. It is like a stuck record on these threads, the soapbox is all yours mother I'm out.

And it was sustainable before? The chickens are coming home to roost. I guess ( I don't know and no one,however much they babble about opinion polls, knows) that many of the leave votes were to make it clear that we have problems and london wasn't listening.

Yes.
Noticed it in Lidl and Aldis - 2p here, 10p there. It seems petty but all adds up when on a budget! I am well aware that inflation makes prices rise anyway, but this seems much more sudden, and I am used to keeping an eye on what the basics cost in different shops.
I suppose that the cheaper shops will see prices rise first, as they already have very small margins in their products, so are less capable of absorbing increases.

On the point of growing your own...
I do grow some food in my small back garden, and on my kitchen windowsill. I love gardening, and I want my dd to know where food comes from.
But for many crops in many locations, it is more expensive to grow your own once you factor in the price of compost, pots, and the plants themselves. I don't bother with carrots and potatoes etc for this reason.
I do grow peas - but that's more for the joy of eating them fresh from the pod, the quantity I can produce each year is tiny and frozen peas are much, much cheaper.
Herbs are definitely worth it, as are some salad leaves, and soft fruit bushes will pay off in the long term.
But you need a lot of space, good quality soil, and time to make much of a dent in your grocery shop - and most people don't have this.

dairy increase is not due to brexit
Just putting that in bold for those that miss it.
For years farmers have been on their arses, being paid less than the cost of producing milk. They've built up quite a debt. Some have stream lined, diversified and some have closed.
All of a sudden Russia and china are buying our milk. So supply is down demand is up. Therefore prices have risen.
So that's why your butter, milk and cheese is up as our farmers are finally earning money to pay the debt off.

ThatsNotMyMummy:
I am very glad if farmers are finally getting close to a fair price for their products. I also hope that the government continue to provide subsidies to British farmers, as prominent leaver promised. Long term food security is an important issue.
But the price rises are not restricted to dairy. In fact, Brexit probably isn't the sole cause of many price rises, things are more complex than that but I do think that the weakening pound is a major factor.

Of course its more complex than that, but this is a mumsnet thread for christsake, not the IMF, get a grip.

It wasn't particularly complex explanation, it is only boring if you don't give a fuck about the world around you and you are wrong in your "its basic economics" trope. It isn't basic economics.

As way said, it's the refusal to understand the complexity of the market and the idea that things are "simple" that is driving this country off the cliff into being a backwater offshore tax haven for the super rich and not much more.

Dumbing down isn't a good thing. "This is MN, not the IMF" - we aren't idiots here and there is no need to insult someone who makes a viable observation just because you want a dumber explanation.

Agree that milk has been too cheap for too long.

Those little pots of bean salads etc in m&s have gone up from 2 for £3 to 2 for £4! They were expensive to start with.

I remember the 1970s. We had 60% inflation over the course of 3 years! It had a horrible impact. Yes wages did rise but nothing like enough and there was a property crash too. People's savings were suddenly worth half what they had been. People bought goods in case they went up 60% and they could later not afford them. I will never forget it.

There are pros and cons to high inflation but on the whole low inflation and stability are much better.