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To think that Britain should take a tougher line on certain children's names?

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floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:08

I name this baby... Superman. And another one... Gazza.

Oh, and let’s call this little mite... Gandalf.

And why not throw in Arsenal for good measure!

All the above are British children’s real first names – and they have all been given official blessing by our liberal authorities.

In Britain, all names, however ridiculous, are up for grabs. Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

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The General Register Office says there are no restrictions on parents - except for exceptional cases, such as a name which could be deemed offensive, when an official could refuse to register it.

But such unusual names could blight a child’s future, according to Professor Helen Petrie, from the University of York, who has studied the psychological effects of having an unusual name.

“I found that people with unusual names had a really hard time, particularly when they were children,” she said.

They described getting teased and how traumatic it could be - because all children want to fit in. But when they became adults, they are often glad that they have something to help them stand out from the crowd.

“People with very common names sometimes feel that they aren’t unique enough. So I think there’s a happy medium to be struck.”

So isn’t it time we took a leaf out of baby naming books from other countries and make such monikers illegal?

Here are some of the worst offenders that have been officially banned in their own countries, but that any Tombola, Dickdastardly or Haribo could call their babies in Britain.

• Lucifer, V8, Christ and Messiah are among the baby names rejected by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs. Disappointed parents wishing to christen their offspring with numbers (89), letters (J, I, T) and punctuation marks (*) were also given short shrift.

• Fish and Chips (twins), Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit also got the kybosh, though the New Zealand judges did allow Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.

• But the top of the NZ banned list must surely be Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

• In Sweden, there is a law preventing parents from naming their children Metallica and Elvis. But in a parental fightback, a couple attempted to name their child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Yes, it’s spelled correctly. We’ve double-checked! And apparently, it’s pronounced “Albin”, though we’re not sure how.

• In Italy, judges prevented a couple calling their kid Venerdi aka Friday. They reckoned the name - taken from Robinson Crusoe - would expose the boy to “mockery”.

• Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

• On the other side of the world, the Malaysian government banned the name Chow Tow. It sounds harmless enough, until you realise the translation is Smelly Head!

• But in China, a family wanted to keep their baby’s name short and sweet, by simply calling it @. Perfect for Twitter, we’d have thought.

• In Germany, the names Stompie, Woodstock and Grammophon have been turned down, whereas the similarly strange Speedy, Lafayette and Jazz were allowed.

• In New Zealand, a whopping 77 names have been banned. They include Lucifer, Mafia No Fear, 4Real, 2nd, 3rd or 5th and ‘.’ (or full stop!).

• But surely top of the pile (excuse the pun) of banned baby names is this from Denmark: Anus. Apparently, the judges thought the baby’s parents were trying to make an a**e of their offpring!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/08/banned-the-world-s-most-ridiculous-baby-names_n_7379492.html

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WizardOfToss · 31/03/2017 22:49

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Nonibaloni · 31/03/2017 22:54

Chill out.

Two friends have unique names, think apple and dolphin. They didn't bat an eyelid throughout school etc.

Another friend, had first name and 3 middle names, I didn't know till I saw their passport because they went by one of their middles names.

The number of totally bizarre names are minimal. Unusual names are only unusal the first few times you here it 🙃

Littlecaf · 31/03/2017 22:58

Distant family have children named Beowulf & Mercutio.

My mum had Roman King, Muhammad Ali and Prince William all in the same class c.1985 in East London. She's also taught a Harry Potter, Taylor Taylor, Chardonnay and a Chablis. This was Essex in the 1990s.

I have two friends who children are called Rae, genuinely not sure what a poster upthread was referring to regarding social status.......Hmm

Have always thought that the upper class use of Lettuce was bizarre.

DP and I are currently channeling inspiration from The Wire for DC2......Quinice, Chaznelle and Tquonne are favourites.

AbernathysFringe · 31/03/2017 23:00

All traditional names were new once, or we'd all be called Ug.

And weird is relative to country.

Harper could be as in author of To Kill a Mockingbird? Not a Beckham.

BillSykesDog · 31/03/2017 23:08

Where do you draw the line though? One of the examples given is letters as names. But these are common Phillipino names (as my friend G and her sister I could tell you - seriously). A lot of it is class based too. There is a post on baby names asking about the name Tyga-Lilli at the moment causing outrage, but you can bet on Netmums that name would be adored by a lot of people.

armpitz · 31/03/2017 23:10

America has bonkers names.

Half the girls on dance moms have made sounding surnames as first names.

SaucyJack · 31/03/2017 23:10

Beowulf is awesome!

Littlecaf · 31/03/2017 23:12

SaucyJack I know! Wish I had the guts to choose that one!

SoulAccount · 31/03/2017 23:12

La-a and Chlamidiya roundly denounced as nonsense by Snopes - and as having pretty racist origins as an urban myth, too.

I don't see why Woodstock is worthy of banning.

lazycrazyhazy · 31/03/2017 23:13

Littlecaff isn't it Lettice rather than Lettuce?
I did wonder if it were already April fool's day reading some of these. I have an ancestor whose first name was Balls. It was tradition to name the first son with the mother's maiden name which was Balls. Not the same connotations then perhaps. DD knew a girl called Mini whose surname was Rolls.... seriously.

Littlecaf · 31/03/2017 23:14

AbernathysFringe I think it's Harpers Bazaar though, as in the posh magazine.

Littlecaf · 31/03/2017 23:15

lazycrazyhazy I think you're right re Lettuce. Still don't get it though. Clearly I don't mix with the right people!

BillSykesDog · 31/03/2017 23:16

All traditional names were new once, or we'd all be called Ug.

There's actually a really interesting quiz on a site called Sporcle on the 100 most popular UK girls names every decade from 1904 onwards. It's really interesting. It starts off in 1904 with very Anglo Saxon names which where enjoying a renaissance like Ethel, Gertrude, Winifred, Doris, Edith and Mabel. It moves on to add some flapperesque names like Daphne and Sybil in the 20s and Hollywood influenced names like Jean and Betty in the 40s to postwar modernism of Susan, Maureen, Doreen to more groovy 60s names like Julie, Debbie, Sharon and Tracy to 70s Lauras Nicolas and Natalies.

It's very interesting to think once someone must have called their daughter Nicola and had an eye roll at such a weird name.

Girliefriendlikesflowers · 31/03/2017 23:16

op YANBU, no kid should be burdened by a ridiculous name.

Nonibaloni · 31/03/2017 23:17

Also, just occurred to me, if we are using could lead to bullying as the cut off surely we have to stop calling boys Leslie and Hilary?

Could be a family name, going back generations but potentially won't play well in the school yard.

I don't know why I'm so sensitive about it, but it makes me feel like pushing a solution to problem that doesn't exist.

armpitz · 31/03/2017 23:19

I do find it funny to think Evie, Ava, Ellie and Amelia will one day be what Shirley, Jean, Linda and Sharon were to me!

Choccywoccyhooha · 31/03/2017 23:21

I find names fascinating, having taught thousands of kids, I have never come across a name that I thought shouldn't have been allowed, although plenty were unusual. Some of my favourites included Marlon-Brandoe (no idea why they added the extra e), Blessing, Glory (a boy, but it really suited him), Philemon, Sundae, and Petergaye. My absolute favourite was my first community midwife who had the perfect midwife name - Comfort.
The US magician Penn Jilette has a daughter called Moxie CrimeFighter. Perhaps a ridiculous name by some standards, but a fantastically creative choice in a world of Oscars, Graces, and Amelias.

SageYourResoluteOracle · 31/03/2017 23:23

Grinre La-a I jest..

Now, it's bedtime for me. Must - !

ItchyFoot · 31/03/2017 23:25

My dad knew a man called Brilliant Cube. He's African and very nice apparently

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 31/03/2017 23:29

Switzerland can be quite rigid with their approach...

A friend of mine (when I was a child) was named Nico. His parents had to go to court for that, seeing as the people doing the registering thought Nico was short for Niccola. And shortenings aren't allowed (no Alfies, Archies, Gretchens etc inSwitzerland).

Idk.

I mean, all names were new at one point, right?
And old names may not even be seen as names anymore (Ransom, for example....). And Wilhelmina may be seen as "weirder" than Harper, Apple or Braedyn.

I guess it comes donw to about how paternalistic (I think that's the English word...?) the state may be in one's opinion...

Slabsofmeat · 31/03/2017 23:32

I bloody hate people giving their kids stupid names

Poor people its always ridiculous spellings which make them look thick

Middle class people because they need something to distinguish their matchy matchy boring lives and identify their kids from each other on padstow harbour

Upper class and mostly a bunch of loons but they tend to give their kids at least the same kind of ridiculous names.

kierenthecommunity · 31/03/2017 23:33

What's Gretchen short for? I assumed that was just a German girls name!

FeralBeryl · 31/03/2017 23:36

For the Harper queriers - it's not the name Harper, it's Harper Seven or Half Past Seven if you sound it out loud Grin that is being mocked.
I actually think it's quite cool
Someone on babynames the other day actually suggested Senna the other day, yknow, a laxative Shock it didn't seem ironic either although I'm hoping it was.....^^

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 31/03/2017 23:37

kieren
Gretchen is short for Greta. The "chen" is a... uhm... Diminuitive ending?

Like... Cat -> Kitten = Katze -> Kätzchen. Kind -> Kindchen (child, little child)

I've never met a native German speaker being actually named Gretchen (on the bc, I mean). I was quite surprised when I realised it's an "actual" name in English, tbh.

kierenthecommunity · 31/03/2017 23:39

Well every days a school day!

Isn't Greta also a shortening for Margaret? Do they have that name (or one similar) in Germany?