To genuinely believe people are much more ruder and 'entitled' these days?

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I may be heading down avenue 'grump old git' these days but people really piss me off recently.
For example, Dh works on the roads and they regularly get abuse from the general public, especially when it come to road closures.
Last week Dh and work mates were working on a road closure when a woman drives up to them demanding that they let her through, 'but the road is closed it says so on the board in front of you!' says Dh. 'No, no that doesn't apply to me I live on this road!' There are no houses on this road, it's a country lane used as a cut through for many.
Anyhow, Dh insists she can not get through, she argues with him, turns her steering wheel and drives right passed into road closure.
Thing is, the reason the road is closed is due to the fact there is a sodding great big hole in road which she proceeds to drive straight into getting car stuck in process
Spends the next 4 hours sulking on grass verge waiting for recovery truck!
Wtf is wrong with folk?

I agree. It's the 'sod you' generation. But remember that most people are nice - it's just the awful ones who draw attention to themselves by their bad behaviour. Your DH, doing the job that he does, just sadly meets more than his fair share of bad 'uns.

I find older people feel they're more entitled and generally speaking, are ruder. Queues are one of the places I find this, as well in public.

expat love that

hecate I don't challenge people as frankly I am scared of them having disproportionate and violent outburst

I think we are more likely to notice rude and entitled people because they have a wider platform now.

There have always been idiots but I would only have known about the ones in my family/neighbourhood.
Now I get to see just how insane people are all around the world thanks to the internet.

I think people have lost the ability to deal with people disagreeing with them.
Everything is an argument now. So many people going all Jeremy Kyle over the most trivial things.

I was in Waitrose (yah) the other day and the naice baby boomer lady behind me was smiling sympathetically at DS (who is two) trying to cause havoc and me trying (and winning!) to control him. (I'd nipped in for nappies and bread without the buggy). We exchanged a few 'toddlers, huh!" type comments so I thought she was an understanding Grandma type. Just as the next "10 items or less till" came free I stooped down to pick DS up and in that split second she queue jumped! I just stood there not believing what I'd just seen this middle class 60 something pearls and green welly lady do!

I can only assume she thought I needed to use the till with the cigarette counter or lottery. (I didn't, I was buying Naty nappies & sourdough!)

(I know this post is stereotyping but she stereotyped me, I'm entitled to do it to her. )

I just hate bloody rude/entitled people. Walking home from school with DD we cross paths with lots of secondary school children. They all walk in groups/packs on some quite narrow footpaths, about 50% walk into me/her because they're on their phone/messing about with their mates but luckily the rest do see us & go into single file so we can pass each other.
I'm determined DD won't grow up into an entitled twat so please/thank you have been drilled into her, I'm always reminding her to keep to one side of the path when we're out walking, she's great at queuing & pointing out when people push in front of her

I was the grumpy driver one day, but I was justified. They were repaving the road outside my flat one day (a smaller road than ran parallel to the main road), and were in the process of closing it. I came out of the parking and approached the road workers, who were letting loads of people through (school run and all that). I was the last car and there was nobody else wanting to get through. They stopped me, put up the No Entry sign right in front of me and refused to let me through! I told them I have to get my DC to school, but they just insisted the road was closed, and got quite verbally abusive to me when I pointed out that he had just let everyone else through!

Oh, and toddlers on bikes! There is one mum in particular on the school run who lets her toddler wheel around on her tricycle every sodding day while we're waiting for the kids to come out. He crashes into people and behaves horribly, but she's completely oblivious. Grrrr.

If I'm feeling mischievous, I'll pick up the bag and speak to it. 'Hiya, Mr Bag, have you got a ticket? No? No ticketie, no seatie, you know the rules. Here, go and sit on Mummy's/Daddy's lap like a good wee bag.' - Expat, that is hilarious .

I went to the local shop one day, and a lady in a massive landrover was taking up one of the few parent/child parking spaces (in an otherwise almost empty parking lot). She obviously had no kids with her. I told her, politely, that these were parent/child spaces, and that she shouldn't park there. She started shouting at me that she was a carer for a disabled person (who wasn't with her), and she had to park close to the shop to load her shopping into her car. WTAF???? I'm a big one for telling people off for parking in parent/child spaces lol, I do it all the time .

I will also often tell people who jump the queue: Excuse me, the back of the line is over there.

OP, that really is quite funny!

When I used to get the train into the City, there were a couple of women who would get on, lean over other people already seated and close the window. No asking if anyone minded!

I'm also amazed at the number of people nowadays who walk into shops with food and drink.

I think as said above, people are too afraid to say anything. Years ago you may have got a bit of an embarrassed look or a word or two, but now it could lead to so much worse.

She doesn't sound entitled. You sounds like a pillock

Not you. She! Sorry

My Mum has holiday lets which I help out with. Every changeover day we get the cleaners in as soon as we can so things are nice for new arrivals. We also make welcome packs for our new guests which consist of home made scones, two bottles each red and white wine, coffee, tea bags and our guide to this area + a review book of attractions. Also we put fresh milk and eggs in the fridges.
In recent times we had an obnoxious guest who said our scones were rubbish, there wasn't enough wine for his weeks stay, we didn't have his favourite loo roll, and shock horror we didn't give free tickets to a famous attraction.
Yes you entilted erm guest if we gave all the things you wanted who do you think would pay for them, clue is it wouldn't be us.

sherlock
I find older people feel they're more entitled and generally speaking, are ruder. Queues are one of the places I find this, as well in public.
much generalisation there -
If I wrote - I find that younger people feel they're more entitled and are ruder. Queues are one of the places I find this. You would be complaining about my attitude.

Not nice to cast aspertions on an entire generation is it.

I'm a fellow road worker op, I'm s glad that driver got their just desserts, often we just get a barrage of abuse and no thanks, these works have to be done and we are just doing our jobs.

I was working late at night, 2300-0600 on a motorway, we closed the motorway at the junction before the works were to take place, loads of signs, cones, lights, there's no way you could miss them. TBH the gap in the cones was difficult for me to find!

The amount of cars that came through the closeure was unbelievable, they had at least 4 miles before they hit the works, most going at 70mph before they reached us, none were apologetic, most complained that the diversion was ridiculously long and one nearly ran me over.

The entitled behaviour has to stop, we reported them all to the police, but not sure if anything happened to them.

Another guy I worked with had a dirty nappy threw at him while working as they were causing congestion!

I think a lot of people are brought up being told how wonderful they are and they deserve the best etc and they assimilate it and become even more like this as adults. A lot of them become politicians .

Doublevodkaredbull -That's part of the problem though, entitled people being rewarded for bad behaviour.

I found the same happened in school. The nasty loud kids would get rewarded because the teachers didn't want to deal with them, so they picked on the quiet kids instead.

My uncle owns a roofing business, which is in partnership with the council, (mostly tower blocks) he's had dealt threats and vileness from customers because he won't go out in storm weather conditions because their roof tiles have come off or they are getting water ingress into their properties, apparently he should risk his and his staffs lives to get the repair done

*Death

My Mum is 75, she lives in London- if anyone pushes in front of her at a bus stop , she is quite happy to pull them back and remind them of their manners!
Even better if they are wearing a hoodie
She takes no shit anywhere - nerve wracking going out with her

Yes, I agree with you. It's all me, me, me and I think the whole 'selfie' culture goes hand-in-hand with the general narcissism and 'me first-ness', which has become an epidemic. People with DC parking in parent and child spaces, blocking people's driveways, barging past others who are waiting, etc.

However, I also feel that there are a lot of busybodies these days who think it's their business to 'speak up', even when they don't really know what's going on. I was in the post office the other day mailing a parcel. I had to buy the envelope, stamps, etc, so I queued up and paid for those things. Woman on the counter told me to wrap my present at the empty counter next to hers and that once I'd done that she'd stick the label on my parcel and I didn't have to queue up again. So I did that and then this woman who was by then at the head of the queue starts yelling at me 'There is a queue, you know!' at the top of her voice. To which I replied 'I'm well aware of that and I stood in it before you arrived, which you would know if you'd been here. I'm just doing what I was asked to by the member of staff who served me'. She went bright red and starting blustering. Silly cow.

*without DC, obviously

Portia (love that name) what frigging planet was your man on???

Did he also want his sheets turned down every night and a bed time story?

I have a theory about this.

Every society has a certain % of entitled twats. If everyone follows rules the few 'rule breakers' hugely benefit. Number of rule breakers increases to a level just below the point at which their 'different' behaviour starts approaching normal (and thus no longer gets rewards as the sig majority aren't following rules). Much like the theory behind why left-handedness hovers at around 25% in populations.

So..., 25% of people will be entitled twats. There used to be much more of a established hierarchy where entitled twattish behaviour was expected from certain people (rich, male, white, over 50, etc, any characteristic that was deemed worthy of greater 'respect'). Now society is (a little) more egalitarian, so the twats are more evenly spread.

Before, some guy would have been a twat but you either would have stood aside for him anyway (because older or whatever reason) and so not noticed, or expected him to be a twat and so not be so outraged.

Now, anyone could be an entitled twat. It's the unexpectedness which causes the outrage as much as the behaviour. Especially if they are similar to you or 'lesser' in whatever social hierarchy you have internalised.

I'm probably wrong. It's only a theory

I'm afraid the this is becoming more frequent because so many people are afraid to speak up. If folks can get away with stepping in front of you in the queue, maybe I'll let them too. If you let them away with their entitled twattage, why should they stop? I'm afraid it is up to all of us to - politely, no advocating for mob rule here - tell people when they are stepping over the line.

My DH tells me often that I shall be shot one day for opening my big mouth but I just cannot bear queue jumpers and others who take advantage of all of us

A girl closely followed by her mum overtook her at last minute and took the swing then they stayed on it for ages while my DD stood crying
Your DD stands there and boohoos because another child beat her to the swing?? She needs to develop some resilience!