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We're not going to do anything about this failing thread. We're just going to watch it explode...Trump cont

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egosumquisum1 · 26/03/2017 21:06

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 28/03/2017 19:20

That would be ace!

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 28/03/2017 19:22

^ that was to Angry Spice letting rip. Grin

originalbiglymavis · 28/03/2017 19:22

It's like a soap opera. Are we sure it's not some reality TV crap and the real president-ing is actually being done by a room full of monkeys in the basement of the white house?

GingerIvy · 28/03/2017 19:23

Sky News Tonight‏ @SkyNewsTonight 2m2 minutes ago
MSPs have backed Nicola Sturgeon's calls for a second independence referendum in Scotland #IndyRef2 #SNT trib.al/VqU2cX3

egosumquisum1 · 28/03/2017 19:23

Just to remind people...when press briefings go wrong.

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 28/03/2017 19:27

It's like a soap opera. Are we sure it's not some reality TV crap and the real president-ing is actually being done by a room full of monkeys in the basement of the white house?

Anyone else read Mavis' post and immediately think: "I reckon a room full of monkeys would be doing a better job!"

originalbiglymavis · 28/03/2017 19:28

Sturgeon can just 'haddaway and loss herself' as my grandmother used to say, or 'just fuckity fuck right off' as I would say.

originalbiglymavis · 28/03/2017 19:30

Yay!!

We're not going to do anything about this failing thread. We're just going to watch it explode...Trump cont
illegitimateMortificadospawn · 28/03/2017 19:33

Yep, they look every bit as credible as Trump's current line up. Good work Mavis. Grin

originalbiglymavis · 28/03/2017 19:38

Hang on - wasn't there a skit in the Simpsons about a monkey as president? Well they did predict so-called president Trump...

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 19:38

The original burglary was in mid 1972, illegitimate. If I recall, Nixon resigned in August 1974.

(Just for context of course.)

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 19:52

To note. New Trump EO just signed rolling back climate change measures. Apparently.

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 19:53

New EO

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 28/03/2017 20:03

The original burglary was in mid 1972, illegitimate. If I recall, Nixon resigned in August 1974.

Oh man! Can we factor in technical advances to speed things up a bit? Pretty please?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/03/2017 20:13

Ari Melber‏ @AriMelber
New: Trump lawyers say defamation suit from an accuser must be blocked b/c he's POTUS.

But SCOTUS ruled 9-0 no immunity for unofficial acts

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 20:16

That's what I meant - partly - by 'Just for context', illegitimate. It was different times and different people.

Don't expect anything overnight, though. Wink

MrsT2007 · 28/03/2017 20:49

No but I think it'll be this year

saffronwblue · 28/03/2017 21:02

Also feeling impatient for his comeuppance ideally before environment and education are completely destroyed. There are so many fronts on which he is personally vulnerable/liable. Russia, conflicts of interest , nepotism, tax, cases brought by women, Russia, and did I mention Russia? Someone has to get him on something.

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 21:05

I hope so. It's a little like a tsunami - in real life film, they appear, in contrast to the towering waves of Hollywood disaster blockbusters, to be curiously unimpressive at first sight to some. They just keep on and on and on though, building and building and building. Horrifyingly dangerous.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/03/2017 21:10

illegitimate Here's the 'high point timeline' for Watergate. Much more went on of course, but these are the major events:

9/1971, Break in at Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office by the 'Plumbers' (this is the first break in)
6/1972 Watergate break-in & arrest of the 'Plumbers'
11/1972 Nixon reelected
4/1973 John Dean starts spilling the beans
5/1973 Senate hearings begin, Independent Prosecutor appointed
5/1973-2/1974 multiple resignations, indictments, convictions, confessions during this period
3/1974 Nixon named as an 'un-indicted co-conspirator', more convictions, indictments, and pleas the next two months
5/1974 Impeachment hearings begin before the House Judiciary Committee
7/1974 HJC passes articles of impeachment
8/1874 Nixon resigns

So where are we with Trump? Probably somewhere around the 'Nixon reelected' point in the Watergate timeline. We know that crimes have been committed, but there is still no provable 'tie' to Trump. And we don't yet (as far as we know) have a 'John Dean' singing like a canary. Once we get to that point, it'll probably be another 18 months or so if Trump has covered his tracks with regards to Russia, and I'm pretty sure he has. And that's if Trump resigns. If they have to actually impeach him, he'll probably be within a few months to a year of finishing his term before he's actually impeached.

I remember Watergate well, I was in my late teens. I was fascinated by it all and watched the hearings and followed things closely.

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 21:14

Just keep thinking of a Democrat House and Senate in 2018, Across. I'm sure some of the incumbents already have that date chilling the hairs on their necks a little. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/03/2017 21:18

The impatience stems from a fear of how much damage he can do while the process to remove him lumbers on. It's terrifying thinking what's at stake, although his inability to govern and legislate is slowing him down Smile Maybe that's a bit Pollyanna-ish but you've got to take your silver linings where you can!

AcrossthePond55 · 28/03/2017 21:20

Bloody hell! Even the leaders of the coal industry have said that there is no way to bring those jobs back wholesale! Too much of the infrastructure is gone, too many electric and manufacturing plants have paid too much money to convert to cleaner energy sources and they aren't going to want to expend more money 'de-converting' to go back to coal. Many mines have been sold off and converted to other uses.

All this is going to do is get rid of regulations that protect the American people and our natural resources from major sources of pollution.

He's a fucking idiot. He knows nothing and believes any plausible lie as long as it's served with a great side order of 'aren't you wonderful'!!!

cozietoesie · 28/03/2017 21:21

I know, Pain.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 28/03/2017 21:22

Seth Abramson‏ @SethAbramson
MSM is backtracking on Yates. DOJ told her to ask WH about testifying; WH didn't say no to it; then Nunes (acting for the WH?) cancelled it.

Can anyone unpack that for me? It seems like it might be significant but I don't know why!