AIBU to let four year old DS drink some of my Koppaburg?

[MyScaryHairyMary]

I know this sounds so unreasonable, but I feel so sleep deprived and I think I'm going crazy. My DS has been up for three nights now, he just doesn't sleep for more than four hours and never naps. My mum says to give him a little tipple to help him. Eyeing up my bottle of Koppaburg and wondering if I should give him a little sip? I literally don't know what else to do to get him to sleep

This is a joke right? I'm also surprised at people saying 'give piriton'...

Piriton doesn't work anyway, DS had to have it for a genuine medical reason and it never made him sleep any differently.

Look at the child's whole day, what they eat, exercise, tv, other stimulation (sugar etc) and post for advice based on that. Medicating your child with alcohol or over the counter medication that they do not need is tantamount to abuse in my opinion.

No DP. My mum has him sometimes but wont do overnight. Going to try the doctor, thanks all

tbh if you are miserable and sleep deprived alcohol isn't going to help.

I know . I tried it for 20 plus years.

Talk to the dr about melatonin as PP suggested. Same effect but without being illegal and more importantly it won't hurt him. You're in a bad place but it's not the answer.

Have you heard of Lullaby milk, I know a few parents who have found it great to help get their kids asleep, mind you they are all children who have been on prescribed melatonin and on the autism spectrum but it does work for some, they stopped the prescription medicine and switched to the milk, you never know might be worth a try.

But do not give him cider, I don't think you really want to anyway, you're just exhasted, sleep deprivation is awful

Where has the OP daid she's going to do it, let alone give him half a pint?

I'm going to pretend that I think you're joking BusyLady123 though nothing would surprise me on MN

Is there anyone would could take him OP? Where's his dad?

:o @ busylady
No one has taken the bait

I just rolled my eyes at BusyLady's post and ignored it.

All too predictably, they have no posting history either...

And yes, do go to the Dr. They generally prescribe phernagan first but will refer you to somebody regarding sleep huge one too.
I have two non sleepers and tbh I have got used to it but by God I look haggered :)

Hygiene not huge one

You sound at the end of your tether. I'm glad you're going to the doctor. What techniques have you tried? Maybe we can give you some tips and advice that worked for us.

Yes yabu. What about piriton, at least that would be legal to give

Yeah, 'cos needlessly drugging them to sleep just because they're not letting you sleep is so much better.
In case some don't have sarcasm mode installed - my above comment totally sarcastic.
Y would be VU to give either alcohol or medicine.

Owllady I am really laughing at that autocorrect - what do you type on your phone for it to learn that?

:o

But surprised at the posters who are intimating that sleep deprivation is a bit of an annoyance, but you have to push through it. Sleep deprivation kills. There have been some horrendously tragic cases (won't give details, as one in particular haunts me to this day) of what can happen when parents are chronically sleep deprived. Am glad you are going to see the doctor, OP, I really hope this is just one of those phases, and that your son sleeps soon!

If you start giving your DC a tiny bit of alcohol regularly to make them sleep, they will become dependant on it. I'm sure that dependency on alcohol (or Piriton for that matter) is not what you want for your child.

I really sympathise with the OP, I had an incredibly long thread on here about my 6yo DS who doesn't sleep through the night and won't go to sleep alone.
I'd tried everything from ignoring him, sitting with him, co-sleeping, essential oils and bloody horlicks. I'd never resorted to alcohol or drugs.

I've seen two gps, one HV and been to one sleep clinic and they've all pretty much told me to see it out and he'd grow out of it, eventually. Melatonin isn't the easiest to get prescribed for children with sleep issues and no other diagnoses.

Op you have to find someone to take him during the night to let you have one sleep; sleep while he is at school/nursery if you aren't working; or sleep at the weekend during the day if someone can watch him.

It's shit. Getting a child who sleeps is much like the Hunger Games, waiting for the reaping and seeing if you are the unlucky sod who needs to go.

is there any chance you could get some sleep during the day when your mum has him?

The original gripe water formulation contained 3.6% alcohol which is very close to the concentration in Koppaburg (4.0%).

I think alcohol was completely removed from gripe water in the UK from 1992.

So you mum is from a time when it was common to give kids and babies alcohol.

These days it is frowned apon.

When I was 5 and on holiday in France with my parents my dad discovered cassis. He let me have it with lemonade instead of wine but in a wine glass so I could be a big girl like the grown ups.

I slept so well after two or three but was a bit cranky the next day.

Mum and dad carried on like this for a week before they realised it had alcohol in it!! I still love a white wine and cassis now parents felt super guilty.

I wouldn't give him the cider.

Koppabarg is mainly sugar and a little sip of 4% wouldn't do anything anyway!

I remember aged 10 in the early 80's at school drinking 1.2% shandy in my packed lunch.
The Teachers never batted an eye lid.

Perhaps the alcohol you've been given as a toddler has affected your judgement. I cannot believe you are genuinely considering this. As for loading him up with Piriton, it's frankly not much better. Speak to GP. And get some common sense.

I'm assuming you're joking OP?