To wonder why 'thin is in'?

[loverofchoc]

DH and I were discussing this with a group of friends earlier today - why are all models now expected to be so thin?

Normally, nobody finds it attractive (obviously bar a few exceptions). The majority of men prefer at least some moderate feminine curves and the majority of females feel slightly sick looking at a really clinically underweight model. It's extremely damaging for these women who starve themselves to be in that profession and surely we'd all be more persuaded to buy stuff if the person modelling it looked happy and healthy...

I don't mean naturally skinny like some people who struggle to gain weight . I mean really, really, anorexic thin like a supermodel.

Any theories?

I don't agree that clothes look better or hang better on thin models. Or on coat hangers. I don't really understand that way of thinking. Why can't models be a bit more normal?

I don't either. I used to come out with the brainwashed 'clothes hang better on stick thin women' line but my husband pointed out it was bollocks. He just said 'no they just look weird'. He thinks clothes look much better on women with their natural healthy shape.

I've heard that it's about money. In the early days of fashion at least, smaller size clothes were cheaper to make.

But 36D chest

Doubt it was a 36D. Her bust measurement was 37 inches at max, which is more like a 32DD or 30E. The measurements are based on outdated sizes.

Size 8 clothes don't even have a 23 inch waist- she was absolutely tiny apart from when she was pregnant.

OK no need to be rude :she had flesh. She was extraordinarily beautiful and would be made to slim down now.

She was extraordinarily beautiful and would be made to slim down now.

Says who? No one's telling Scarlett Johansson to lose weight, are they? Nah.

That was to super btw papa!

you were not rude :)

But your average person in the UK is way overweight anyway, surely 'thin is in' is a good thing

Too right.
It's gone too much the other way. There are so many overweight young people around. I don't think it's good to be too thin. But slim is good?

I've noticed that it's usually fat people who call slim people thin (usually to disparage them and to make themselves feel better about being overweight)

I'm guessing the OP has problems with her weight.

Hopefully not.

But Kate Winslet was repeatedly told to

She was extraordinarily beautiful and would be made to slim down now

Not even sure if that is true either. Look at her in this clip- she is much smaller than most current actresses.

I've never though Marilyn was all that tbh.

But Kate Winslet was repeatedly told to

I can't see anything suggesting that when I google it.

A lot of people are told to lose or gain weight for roles. That's very different. Look at Matthew McConaughey in Dallas Buyers Club

'Because I have boobs'

Alright love, so do size 8s...

I had also heard the "gay men designing for a boy's bodyshape" theory.

But then this is now the 'norm' in high fashion circles. The people they are trying to sell the clothes to are the buyers, the front row might be what the press focus on, but the designers are really trying to catch the eye of the buyers sat elsewhere. Any model outside of the 'norm' will stand out, and make the audience look at the model - not the clothes. Plus the uniformity of the models means the designers can make the clothes then decide which girl is going to wear them later on.

"I used to come out with the brainwashed 'clothes hang better on stick thin women' line but my husband pointed out it was bollocks. He just said 'no they just look weird'. He thinks clothes look much better on women with their natural healthy shape."

You shouldn't change your opinion because your husband 'points out' it's bollocks. Your husband's opinion on female body image is completely, but completely, immaterial.

She would wear a size 12 or 14 now.

She would possibly be a size 12, in today's sizes.
But there's no way she was a 16,
A lot of obese women comfort themselves with the thought that
''It's OK to get fat, Marilyn was a size 16''

Duh no she wasn't!

But Kate Winslet was repeatedly told to

Kate Winslet is much larger than MM and in her younger days was definitely a size 14 or so. MM's figure is more like Scarlett Johansson- proportionately large boobs, but fairly short and very petite.

Do you know what form of plastic surgery has soared in popularity the past couple of years? Bum implants and fat transfers.

I can tell you now that a lot of women in their late teens/early 20s are looking to be curvier. It's the Kim Kardashian effect. The amount of women who weight train to get more muscular is soaring.

Please don't 'all right, love ' me.

How rude.

I was explaining why a not overweight person might feasibly wear a size 14!!

The majority of men prefer at least some moderate feminine curves and the majority of females feel slightly sick looking at a really clinically underweight model

Not a feminist amongst you? Pity.

She would possibly be a size 12, in today's sizes

Most size 12s have at least a 28 inch waist. MM's waist was 22 inches. The press went mental when they found out that Victoria Beckham had a 23 inch waist, which is apparently the size of a 7 year old girl. MM would be an 8 at the maximum.

Your husband's opinion on female body image is completely, but completely, immaterial.

Quite

She was extraordinarily hourglassed! wow.

'I've noticed that it's usually fat people who call slim people thin (usually to disparage them and to make themselves feel better about being overweight)'

What's wrong with the word 'thin'?? I would have thought thin is a fairly neutral word, 'skinny' on the other hand can be used disparagingly.

But maybe you're just determined to be offended.

I have a 23 inch waist and am a size 6. A small size 6. If Marilyn Monroe did indeed have a 22
inch waist then there is no way in hell she was a 12/14 or even 16 by today's standards.

By the by, I'm healthy, happy and no way am I a stick or dangerously thin.

TatianaLarina He thinks clothes look much better on women with their natural healthy shape. - could that be as a straight male, he's looking at the woman in them and thinking how they make the woman look, not just focussing on the clothes?