to think there should be a law against...

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Tractors, cyclists, learner drivers, old doddery drivers, trailers, farm traffic, and generally slow ass people driving half the speed limit from being on the roads during rush hour?

This morning on my way to an important meeting miles away (that I don't have the option of leaving any earlier for due to childcare) a tractor stays in front of me and 30 odd other cars for over 20 miles, going 28mph and not pulling in.

Driving home there is a lane closed on the dual carriageway and I'm stuck behind a car going 30mph for several miles creating a huge tailback.

Then on the school run where I only have fifteen minutes to drive five miles due to work, I am behind a learner again making me late.

Don't even get me started on those who think the national speed limit is 40. Which appears to be 75% of drivers. Or people who drive REALLLLLLY slowly when the traffic lights turn green and I then have to wait again as they've turned red.

This is my life on a daily basis, it's driving me insane. I am late for everything all of the time and I don't have the option to leave earlier with the school run/work.

I do always try and be patient for learners to be fair, but I (selfishly) wish they wouldn't go out during school run time.

I wish I could leave earlier in the mornings but I have a DS with behavioural issues and no childminder will take him on (I've tried), he's too young for the school bus and ex husband is disabled and not able to help out and family/friends all with other commitments or miles away.

Lorries overtaking lorries should not be allowed either Op , you're right. Especially when it's a bit of a hill.

I really am a nice reasonable person generally.

I have a lot of patience for learner drivers as I was one 5 years ago and remember the fear of having someone driving right up my arse. Around my way however there is an instructor who seems to delight in taking out very, very new drivers at 8am on main roads which does seem a bit . Doing 15 in a 40 zone during rush hour seems a bit cruel to all (unless it's the same learner who just isn't getting any better...).

This morning I drove for a mile behind a sodding smug elderly man on an electric scooter through my village with no way of overtaking. Are they not allowed on pavements anymore?

Yabu, but I'm hearing you! There's a straight A road I use often. Almost everyone seems to think the limit is 40. It's 60. It drives me so nuts I've started going another way, via side roads because it's too frustrating on the A road.

I do sort of get you OP though I think you need to chill a little

I have a major issue with the group I call 'the 40m pep hourerers'

those people who can ONLY do 40 - so on a lovely clear stretch at 60 you over take - 5 mins later in a 30mph they are right up your arse - often over taking badly - back to 60 and you are stuck behind them again - pisses me right off! Just do the speed limit ffs

I get very mad at all these things, except cyclists, but do have to tell myself I'm being unreasonable.

Re the cyclists cycling out wide or two abreast - they often do this when they feel being overtaken would be unsafe - hence assertive riding to prevent that. Or they may just be being a twozzock.

I was deffo the overtaking then slowing down person last week when my car had an intermittent fault: I'd move out at 60 to let someone out a junction then they'd cone up my inside before I could get back into the slow lane, so I'd creep up to 65 and past trying not to trigger the fault then slink guiltily back in in front of them.

I'm with you, OP. I dream of wheels with blades that come out (Grease style) to deal with the cretins that clog up the roads.

I undertook a queue of 18 cars on a motorway tonight that were sitting in the outside lane at 50mph whilst the middle lane was completely free. Not one vehicle moved afterwards either. Twats.

Yabu, but I'm hearing you! There's a straight A road I use often. Almost everyone seems to think the limit is 40. It's 60.

Same here. I just overtake them on the roundabouts.

YABU. And completely full of shit, the tractor was not going 60mph, that's a ridiculous exaggeration so I'm inclined to think your '20 mile, 30 car' tailback is an exaggeration too.

When I was a learner driver I sometimes had early morning lessons. When my instructor had me go in commuter traffic I always felt to anxious and guilty. So I agree with you, but have a heart!

Overtaking on roundabouts, didn't know that was allowed

The first time I drove at 8:40 in the morning was during my driving test... I passed three weeks later at a more civilised 11am

You're being unreasonable, but I'd be lying if I said I'd never felt the sentiment

What really narks me is the dawdling Sunday drivers still pootling home mid-morning on Tuesday.

those people who can ONLY do 40 - so on a lovely clear stretch at 60 you over take - 5 mins later in a 30mph they are right up your arse - often over taking badly - back to 60 and you are stuck behind them again - pisses me right off! Just do the speed limit ffs

So overtaking and driving 20mph faster didn't actually get you any further than someone driving slower, only your more out of pocket through using more fuel

God yeah.

Those bloody tractors being driven about from farms that are growing our food.

Why don't they all just piss off eh?

Here's a thing... I live in a rural farming area and actually plan my journey accordingly due to harvest/ploughing times.

Even so, I often get stuck behind a tractor but then I think they are feeding our nation so I calm the fuck down.

er no - the road drops down to 30 - I do 30 - they carry on doing 40 ...ergo they catch up!

Yabu i am a learner driver and i need to learn to drive in all sorts of situations rush hour included. I do see why it would annoy you though but everyone was a learner driver once

I once had to go about 6 miles in mainly rural roads to get somewhere for a 5 minute job. On the way there, I spent several miles following a tractor painfully slowly. I put my foot down with glee after it turned into a field...

Shortly after, I was doing the return leg of the journey, and so was the same flipping tractor!

If you regularly nearly total your car when the driver in front brakes suddenly, you need to leave a longer gap. What if they did an emergency stop?

OP, I hear you. I obviously live in a v considerate tractor area - because mostly they pull over - but when they don't I'm

It depends on where you live and what you need to do as to whether this annoys you, but on my school run down numerous country lanes (miles apart - I watch every minute on the clock - unavoidable situation) I am chomping at the bit behind every slow driver holding me up.

I have to say YANBU. (I thought you'd like one!).

If you're late for everything - set off earlier!!

It isn't everyone else's responsibility to get out of your way. Massively selfish. (You should be getting out of MY way!!)

We all need to chill a bit, to be honest.

You need to make changes on your life to make it run more smoothly. Why do you live 5 miles from school? Do you live in the middle of the country side. Would you consider moving? You can't have it all. I live a 5 minute walk from school but that's how I planned it

Do like to see tractors out getting our grub in, but when i used to drive tractors for my uncle it was drubbed into us that more than five cars behind you and you pulled over. 2 of his farms were nearly seven miles from each other so we were often on the roads from one to another, it is unreasonable not to pull over when going very slowly.
No idea why a pp says her husband can't get out of a layby once in it, i have never been stuck in a tractor anywhere.
Agree also re rural cyclists. I think there is a huge discrepancy between people thinking about cyclists in built up areas, ie one or two at a time, and those of us who live rurally who are subjected numerous times a day to huge swathes of 20 + cyclists, all bunched up, very much more than the two abreast highway code recommendation, holding up traffic between villages for miles on end.

I am so glad I don't live in the UK any more. The stress!

Argh! My mil is a one speed wonder! 40 in a 30, 40 in a 60. She's so ditzy and has no idea what speed she's going imo she shouldn't be on the road.

you know what they say

everyone driving slower than me is an idiot
and everyone driving faster a maniac.

It's true though.