South-North Differences

[TryingNotToWaddle]

I've recently moved and so far everyone I've met is scared of the capital "because of all the crime and terrorism", is on the right of the political spectrum, a 'loose' Christian, thinks being vegetarian is weird, vegan is impossible and stupid, husbands are useless at childcare and cleaning because it's for women, etc etc

I'm not saying I think different views are wrong... each to their own! I just feel terribly out of place. Everyone seems so cookie cutter up here

AIBU to hold out hope that It is just the people I've met and there are people up here with other views?

deblet are you sure you moved to the Midlands and not the 1940's?

No it feels like a time warp in this village. That's why I drive to Chesterfield as much as I can over the border

I get in my car and drive avoiding people now if I can

Driving while not avoiding people might make life even harder :o

I'm in Chesterfield deblet. There is a chance you may sometimes get called duck. It's not unknown around here

Trills

The town you live doesn't start with an E by any chance? Sounds suspiciously like my home town. Which I left at the first opportunity to go to University at 18.

People really need to research the place they're going to move to, is all that tells me, deblet.

I live in liverpool. I bloody love it. Went for a walk along the docks this afternoon in the sunshine and hardly heard a Scouse accent, there were so many visitors including from abroad. Starting to be too many southern accents though for my liking, a lot of people are moving here because they like the vibrancy of the city without the cost and overcrowding. House prices are starting to become slowly unaffordable here too now, partly as a result of people moving here from where it has got too expensive, I reckon. It's a bit worrying.

Starting to be too many southern accents though for my liking

I didn't mean it like that, youza! i meant it feels like things might go the way of lots of villages in Cornwal - locals can't afford to buy there because of wealthy outsiders coming in and buying second homes.

Lots of people seem to be moving up here from London and with property price differences being what they are, they seem to have no problem forking out large sums for what were traditionally working class terraces. It pushes prices up and then locals start to struggle when they want to buy for the first time.

Not in my experience. I live in West Yorkshire and joined the WI in a very 'naice' suburb. It is full of switched on, left wing, feminist women who are the very opposite of what you describe. There are veggie and vegan cafes/restaurants where I live, people are generally friendly and kind out and about. On the bus I take into town there are white, black, Eastern European, Asian and I see a lot of courteous behaviour, regardless of race. Older, pregnant women, people with prams etc are offered seats of busy buses and their colour/language or whatever make no difference. People will often chat to those sat next to them. I'm sure there are very narrow minded, prejudice people here but I don't think it's a North/South thing either.

I didn't mean it like that, youza! grin i meant it feels like things might go the way of lots of villages in Cornwal - locals can't afford to buy there because of wealthy outsiders coming in and buying second homes

I've been accused of this when we didn't have a pot to piss in...

Assuming people with southern accents are rich and pushing up house prices is twatty and prejudiced.

But we SOUND rich

They can't help having to move away because it is too expensive down south.

Incidently many wealthy Arabs move to London... would it be ok to moan or pass comment? No I don't think so.

Let alone say... I hear lots of Arabs they are here again pushing up the house prices

It really is a problem, though. In the same way that gentrification of traditionally working class areas of London has negative effects on long-term residents who grew up in the area. And I hear plenty of complaints about Russian property investors from Londoners.

Ok then I should have very carefully specified that the particular people I know who have moved up from London have sold houses there to buy up here.

Did you ask them what was left on their mortgage?

I doubt you did.

Yes it is a problem no matter your race or colour. It's nothing to do with prejudice. It's different levels of wealth and the fact that there a lot of houses in London are owned by the mega rich (from all over the world) as an investment, not to actually live in. Drives central London property prices up and over time that has a ripple effect outwards into the suburbs. London is now an unaffordable place to live in for the average person. Which is why plenty of people look to move out, to cheaper places. Traditionally this was still in the south east but even out of London proper property is getting to ridiculous prices. And so a lot of people look for a better standard of living and are starting to realise that the only way they can do that is move northwards where property has up to now been a lot cheaper.

But this DOES have an effect on things, and yes, while I love my city and will always recommend that anyone moves here, the rise in property prices here makes me worried for my own kids. Where will THEY go when there is nowhere cheaper to move to?

People have volunteered information to me on specifics, yes. Maybe not their mortgage, but what they bought their London property for, what they sold it for and the deposit they were then able to afford on a place up here. I've spoken about this to a few people because I've been in that position myself and the north/south divide when it comes to property prices is a staggeringly obvious talking point amongst people who have made the move one way or the other.

Lifelong northern here. Vegetarian, loads of Northern vegan friends. Member of the Labour Party.
Love London but wouldn't want to live there, although I visit every couple of months.
Whereabouts are you op and can we point you towards some more enlightened groups in real life?

Most of the north also has the distinct advantage of not having to descale kettles etc.

I've lived in both the north and the south and I can confirm I have meet plenty of dickheads
Ignorance is not defined by geography

NW born and bred here, so close to the Yorkshire border that on a clear day I can see it. The people here that I know can be closed minded and at times have a bit of a little Englander mentality at times tbh but that's definitely not a Northern thing, it tends to be the people who don't want to travel too far from home who have that attitude.
I Love London. We go as often as possible and never get bored. However where we live you can hear a bat fart at 3am through a closed window, the constant noise in London would drive me nuts! Even Manchester has fairly quiet times, London never seems to.
Oh, and the Bitter. Southern Bitter sucks.

Inverness is not the North. It is Scotland - another country and they do things differently there.

The North starts at Durham and ends at the border with Scotland.

How does one weave lentils?