If you are Muslim.

[Masher]

Hopefully this doesn't come across as insensitive. It is to do with the photograph of the lady in the brown headscarf walking across Westminster Bridge after the attack. I thought she looked terrified, distraught, and very, very shaken. The photographer has just confirmed this.

One thing that crossed my mind I think, is that if I was muslim and caught up in such an act I would really fear for my safety. I would be scared the people there may turn against me, I would be scared that I would be accused of being involved, and I would be scared the security services may do both of these things too.

It got me thinking about how I would feel in everyday life in Britain. I just wondered whether you all feel safe here, or if it changes through various regions and depends on where you are?

If you don't feel safe, or there are times when you don't feel safe, what can I do that would make it better? I live in London if that helps.

Another one who thinks its my civic duty to walk on if help is already being provided and I cannot provide any meaningful help.

IMHO the perpetrator was a disturbed delinquent English man.

Actually when to intervene or not is always tricky. If there are enough people already there it can be best just to walk on. People would have assumed it was a standard road crash of course too. My father, a doctor, would always stop and help - I remember a call on a plane once for doctors and nurses and there were so many volunteers they did not need him.

dont take my word for it reza aslan says it twitter.com/Ramadhern/status/625212696749846528

These attacks are nothing to do with Islam. They are the work of terrorists. It's absolutely disgraceful that we have to point that out.
I saw a good post on Facebook that commented how we didn't persecute or turn against all the Irish when the IRA were bombing us... so why do we do it to Muslims?
I know lots of Muslim people and they are all kind, family oriented people. They couldn't be further from a terrorist. Associating Muslims with terrorists is feeding the fire, which is giving the terrorists exactly what they want. Such a shame

Because I think they look more glamorous, and "normal" and the scarves are pretty. I have almost lost my hair through chemo and was looking at various ways to tie scarves.

mrs ddc no true Scotsman fallacy

Without a doubt, Atenco has got it right. There were people helping already, the best thing any additional passer-by could do in those circumstances was to walk quietly and briskly by, not stopping to gawk, not blocking the pavement.

And it is horrifying that this image is being promulgated solely to stir up racial hatred. I feel so, so sorry for the woman in the picture.

Also, this thread has been educational, and not in a good (though sadly probably in a necessary) way. FWIW, I'd like to offer my solidarity to the Muslim posters on this thread. It's been eye-opening to see (not for the first time on here) the barrage of othering, and constant low-level racism disguised (unsuccessfully) as wide-eyed "but why would you do this?" enquiries, designed to fly under the radar and avoid deletion/banning, but leaving the people on the receiving end in no doubt as to the underlying racist intent.

Headofthehive55 Personally I wouldn't like it, but I can't speak for anyone besides myself.

Yellow6 Reza Aslan believes in an interpretation that is believed to be incorrect by the vast majority of Muslim scholars. His views are interesting but your average Muslim doesn't share them.

Ah to be so western-centric that you believe your way is "normal" and other ways aren't.

Western-centric is normal in the West. Other ways are normal in other places.

Headofthehive55 What about wrapping a scarf in a turban style? V glam IMO and worn by different religions and cultures. Lots of tutorials on youtube if you are interested. I find stretchy cotton jersey scarves work very well for that style and are very comfortable. Sorry you are going through chemo

Oh such ignorance

Xposted i was of course referring to fourmummys post.

"we didn't blame all Irish or Catholic people back then"

Whoever wrote that meme has a short fucking memory.

MrsDC7

That Facebook post you saw was rubbish. I can only speak for the 60's ( my parents' experience) and the 80's and 90's (my own experience when visiting and friends experience while living in the UK) but anti-Irish sentiment was rife and particularly bad after an IRA atrocity. It permeated all levels of society. You just have to look at all the miscarriages of justice to see that it wasn't just a few bigoted people. Bigotry has always been a part of British (and pretty much every other) society. It's just the target that has changed.

That said, I knew (and still do) many lovely British people who were appalled at the anti-Irish sentiment. These are obviously the same type of people who today are appalled at the anti-muslim sentiment.

lots of Muslim women choose not to wear any head scarf though are they wrong as well?

Why are you picking away about this yellow?

YY, MrsGoggins and theymade. I remember what got said about Irish people back in the 70s and 80s (some of it, shamefully, by relatives of mine). And I remember what my Irish boyfriend went through - full search every time he came off the ferry from Ireland.

According to the majority of scholars, yes yellow

lots of Muslim women choose not to wear any head scarf though are they wrong as well?
It's my first ever post about hijab/scarf here.
I think no one should judge anyone as being wrong when it comes to head scarf/hijab. The Muslim families that I know have no such rules that they follow. Some of them do it and some don't. That makes sense to me as I think it's a personal choice and each to their own.

because actually im right on page 6 i said 'nowhere in the quran does it mention the hijab' and then someone said that was and ignorant and incorrect statement she then post 4 verses of the quran nowhere mentioning the hijab or the need to cover the face or hair so why should i let it go im right look at the 4 verses your self and look for the word hijab its not there

Headifthehive I'm really sorry about your illness, my aunty lost her hair during chemo and I know how devastated she felt about it.

Personally I wouldn't be at all concerned if you chose to wear a headscarf, there's loads of tutorials on YouTube about how to wear a headscarf in different styles if you want to. And if you like I'll pm you links to super cheap hijab retailers they also sell hijab accessories to dress up your headscarf for parties etc.

I would be really careful whilst wearing a headscarf right now tho, as the atmosphere is not nice and you do not want to be accidentally caught up in any angry retaliation from people think you're Muslim.

I hope your treatment goes well. xx

Yellow you're wrong.

Your beliefs are not ours and our beliefs are not yours.

And that is all.

Every quotation that you have posted mentions head coverings.
What do you think head coverings are?

@yellow6 You are making no sense at all. If Muslim women choose to wear the hijab EVEN if it for argument sake lets say it is not mentioned in the Qur'an, that is up to them, and its their freedom to choose. Stop going on and on about it. Seriously get lost and take your bigoted anti-Muslim views elsewhere.