If you are Muslim.

[Masher]

Hopefully this doesn't come across as insensitive. It is to do with the photograph of the lady in the brown headscarf walking across Westminster Bridge after the attack. I thought she looked terrified, distraught, and very, very shaken. The photographer has just confirmed this.

One thing that crossed my mind I think, is that if I was muslim and caught up in such an act I would really fear for my safety. I would be scared the people there may turn against me, I would be scared that I would be accused of being involved, and I would be scared the security services may do both of these things too.

It got me thinking about how I would feel in everyday life in Britain. I just wondered whether you all feel safe here, or if it changes through various regions and depends on where you are?

If you don't feel safe, or there are times when you don't feel safe, what can I do that would make it better? I live in London if that helps.

Fuzzy
Judging from what user is saying, every Muslim woman who does hijab and finds herself stuck in such situation absolutely MUST start crying and wailing, not to mention shake the hand of every injured person on the ground just in case people dysarthria judging her on her lack of humanity.
This country of mine is going to dogs so fast.

I know sherazade thank goodness, what would we do without them

appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment it clearly states over their chest

Oh yummy stealth bigots my favourite please can I have another helping of it's your fault people are horrible to you because of your faith/skin colour sir.

Yes yellow6... the HEADCOVERS that they are already wearing. The ones that cover their HEADS...!
I highly recommend you watch that video I posted for you, it will explain it all so I don't have to.

Even in a hospital when the emergency buzzer goes off when there's enough people there to deal with it everyone else gets kicked out the bed space. Don't need extra bodies getting in the way plus the person deserves some dignity of not having people standing round gawping.

The hindu doctors who treat us wear normal clothes, the Jamaicans do.

Ah to be so western-centric that you believe your way is "normal" and other ways aren't.

yellow, it says a portion of their headcovers that would be their headcovering then maybe a scarf perhaps?

This thread is so fucking depressing.

The utter disrespect being shown to Muslim women is awful.

Not everyone thinks like like this, just a noisy and vocal minority

It's normal in the western world. All
Just like its normal for some cultures to rub noses in greeting you. (Would be alarmed if someone wanted me to participate)

I guess it all comes down whether you feel it's right to impose your norms and expectations onto someone's else's culture.

I don't feel that a woman's choice of how much cloth to put on her body, impact on me or impose on anyone's culture in the slightest.
That's just racist moron thinking.

'And say to the believing women that they lower their gaze and restrain their sexual passions and do not display their adornment except what appears thereof. And let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms.' yetin this translation by Maulana Wahiduddin Khan says over any way it dosnt say in any translation women must cover there hair oris explicit and if it was so important to allah wouldn't he of been explicit in what he said?

Can I just say thank you to WorraLiberty for posting the other photo at the beginning of the thread - I shall keep a copy to use if (probably when) I see the photo of the lady on social media again.

Agree we should ignore user

They have been posting the same thing all through the thread trying to get a rise

I hope that young lady is ok, she did absolutely the right thing by not getting in anyones way

I assume that people like user have some quota in their head for how many people should stop at the scene of an accident. Oooh quick head count, maybe another completely fucking useless person at the scene would be helpful...

If they are by themself then yes you stop and help and you let the more qualified people take over when they can

I'm guessing that if you're in the middle of an attack by a big beardy brown feller and you are also visibly Muslim it may occur to you that you may not be the most reassuring sight for victims who might be fearing a second wave of attacks. So unless you have particular skills which can be of use it may be more considerate to move on.

The bigotry and racism on this thread is so fucking depressing. So fucking what if some women prefer to wear headscarves? It's their right to dress as THEY wish. Maybe we can blame the western women that wear skimpy clothes for being raped, or Catholics in Northern Ireland for being abused by 'the other side' because someone has spotted them wearing a cross, or indeed a Protestant for wearing a Rangers top? It's not what someone wears that causes them to be abused, it's the ignorant fucks around them that abuse them that are the problem, as some on this thread have proven.

Well said, Povertypain. Fed up with womens clothing always being made an issue out of, and never mens.
People can wear whatever they want on the street as long as their private parts are covered, it's nothing to do with anyone else.

I'm not Muslim but have 2 staff members who I have witnessed being treated appallingly on our tills

I always intervene but it seems to ramp up after every terrorism incident. I'm off this weekend so won't be there to help them. It's horrible. Really nasty stuff

Sorry, meant to say, I think it's actually only happening to them because they visibly wear their scarves/headwear

Valentine2

user
Oh do fuck off with your barely hidden idiocity. I have worked around dying people and they HATE being given the kind of "respect" you are talking about.

The rudeness aside, I very much doubt whether you know what dying people on a London street feel about anything.

And if you are a naturist?
Whilst to a point what other people wear or do not wear is of no real interest to me, there is a point where it does matter to me - for example I need to see the persons mouth realistically so I can hear them.

I guess it's only pragmatic to be aware about other people's feeling towards dress.

I think that woman pictured would only be rushing away from the scene, terrified, phoning people to say she's ok!

But I would like to know how wearing a headscarf tied in a Muslim way would be seen my other Muslims when I'm not one.

Why would you ask that