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I didn't write this thread title, I'm just quoting a really intelligent and talented poster on the last Trump thread

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BiglyBadgers · 19/03/2017 11:43

New thread!

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TrueBlueDem · 21/03/2017 15:34

Lweji LOL yes I agree the original was so much better!

lmao @ the other clips!

cozietoesie · 21/03/2017 15:37

I think that Bannon is still there, Pain. He's not a wartime consigliere though.

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 15:38

ACLU National‏Verified account @ACLU 15m15 minutes ago
In an Unprecedented No-Show, the U.S. Pulls Out of Planned Human Rights Hearing www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/unprecedented-no-show-us-pulls-out-planned-human-rights-hearing

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/03/2017 15:38

Live from a parallel universe, it’s Kellyanne Conway on ‘Fox & Friends’!

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/21/live-from-a-parallel-universe-its-kellyanne-conway-on-fox-friends/?utm_term=.3840e34b15d8

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/03/2017 15:39

Had to look up 'consigliere' - you are doing wonders for my vocabulary!

MsHooliesCardigan · 21/03/2017 15:40

Pain I agree with every word about Hillary. That's an excellent summary. There were quite a few posters on here parroting that she's a crook and corrupt and a warmonger in the run up to the election with precious little to back it up.
Of course 45 is absolutely none of those things Hmm

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 15:41

The Guardian‏Verified account @guardian 1m1 minute ago
Late-night TV roundup: 'Trump lied on Twitter during a hearing about him lying on Twitter' trib.al/rvrK0N8

squishysquirmy · 21/03/2017 15:42

Loved those tweets about Hillary, Pain.
I never really understood why she was so hated either (I can understand why a politician who's been in the public eye for so long is unpopular, but not to that degree).
My dad hates her, and has never been able to adequately articulate why - just the usual "Libya!" "Bengazi!" "She's mad!" stuff, with no depth to it. I am sorry to realise that, although my dad would never admit it to himself, misogeny is at the root of it. Sad He would not feel so strongly about a male politician.

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 15:52

Media Matters‏Verified account @mmfa 30s31 seconds ago
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Donald Trump has made the lack of journalistic standards on Fox & Friends a national security issue: mm4a.org/2nWZi6V

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 15:53

Ari Berman‏Verified account @AriBerman 2m2 minutes ago
The bigger picture: Gorsuch confirmation will help Trump admin rollback voting rights www.thenation.com/article/in-emails-neil-gorsuch-praised-a-leading-republican-activist-behind-voter-suppression-efforts/ … pic.twitter.com/MLgGWu4r11

Floisme · 21/03/2017 15:59

I agree about the misogyny and that Hillary Clinton was held up to a higher standard than any other politician I can think of. I've talked to any number of people (not in the USA) who even blame her for her husband's infidelities - 'Well she stayed with him, didn't she?' and similar.

However - and hindsight is a wonderful thing - I also think it's important to try and learn from events, and choosing such an establishment candidate played totally into Trump's hands. It allowed him to play the 'outsider' card and, whatever we may think of him, he played it very well.

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:04

This is not going over well at all.....

CNN International‏Verified account @cnni 5h5 hours ago
The US has imposed an electronics ban on flights from major Middle Eastern and African airports. What it means: cnn.it/2mPAEoZ pic.twitter.com/OSoS5tHubP

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:06

Interesting, re airlines....

In reply to CNN International
The Liberal Texan‏ @liberaltxn 5h5 hours ago
@cnni Coincidence? money.cnn.com/2017/02/07/investing/airlines-american-gulf-carriers-trump/@emirates @qatarairways @EtihadAirways @RoyalJordanian @TurkishAirlines #MuslimBan

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:15

Jim Waterson‏Verified account @jimwaterson 2m2 minutes ago
Here's the airlines which have flights to Britain affected by the ban on laptops and iPads. www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/britain-is-set-to-follow-the-us-laptop-ban-on-flights-from?utm_term=.xrrqNBVyb#.qcO5rWRZ1 … pic.twitter.com/1cWOVFtPwd

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:17

ABC News‏Verified account @ABC 15s15 seconds ago
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JUST IN: UK follows U.S. in banning airline passengers from bringing laptops in carry-on luggage on direct flights from six countries.

Lweji · 21/03/2017 16:19

The U.S. officials said intelligence "indicates terrorist groups continue to target commercial aviation" by "smuggling explosive devices in various consumer items."

"Continue"? When was the last time they used an explosive device in the US?

It means all laptops, cameras, tablets, e-readers, portable DVD players, electronic gaming devices and travel printers or scanners will have to be kept in the cargo hold for the duration of the flight.

Nothing on microwaves?

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:19

PIX11 News‏Verified account @PIX11News 12m12 minutes ago
#BREAKING: Bomb threat made to New Jersey synagogue with pre-school inside via.pix11.com/78vux

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:20

Wajahat Ali‏Verified account @WajahatAli 4m4 minutes ago
Not a Muslim ban though! U.S. Limits Devices for Passengers on Foreign Airlines From Eight Muslim Majority Countries nyti.ms/2mL7OoB

Lweji · 21/03/2017 16:20

Also, surely, if they take an explosive device in the cargo hold, and then have their mobiles with them, they could still explode said device.

It makes as much sense as using microwaves to spy on Trump.

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:21

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Massive difference in UK and US #ElectronicsBan country list raises questions about why DXB, DOH, AUH are on the US blacklist.

cozietoesie · 21/03/2017 16:21

'I think I can also pinpoint the exact moment at which Rogers began wishing he’d gotten into animal husbandry as a career.'

I quote. Grin

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:30

Jonathan Karl‏Verified account @jonkarl 4h4 hours ago
Take a look at how the White House is now trying to minimize the role that former campaign chairman Paul Manafort played in the campaign pic.twitter.com/shyf9JBefH

BiglyBadgers · 21/03/2017 16:32

Those tweets about Hillary are exactly right. I am by no means a raging Hillary fan, however, the treatment of her by the media and even people from her own party was nothing less than old fashioned misogynistic hate.

The fact is I don't think it is possible to spend as long as she has in government and be a presidential candidate without having had to do some distasteful things and hung out with some unpleasant people. I am constantly in awe at how whiter than white and has turned out to be. Despite intense scrutiny and digging into every aspect of her life and career there has not been even a whisper of corruption or dirty dealings uncovered. It is frankly amazing and my respect for her just goes up and up with every failed smear.

For me the mistake that was made with Hillary was believing that because a black man got voted in as President that meant anyone could be. We all forgot that as a white woman Hillary is still missing a vital word and that word is 'man'.

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GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:36

Pierre Briançon‏Verified account @pierrebri 1m1 minute ago
Billionaire Lebanese businessman paid Fillon $50,000 to set up meetings with Putin & Total CEO - Canard Enchaîné: bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/france/fillon-a-touche-50-000-dollars-pour-organiser-une-reunion-avec-poutine-1126712.html

GingerIvy · 21/03/2017 16:37

Jamie Ross‏Verified account @JamieRoss7 2m2 minutes ago
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We're two and a half hours into the Scottish parliament #IndyRef2 debate and they're currently arguing about who's blocked who on Twitter.