PLEASE SHARE AND ALL CHECK IF U HAVE A TOMMEE TIPPEE PREP MACHINE!!!!!!!!!

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After seeing a post early this morning about tommee tippee prep machine having mould in the pipes i was more than slightly concerned
baby bottle from a mouldy machine!!!!!
PLEASE SHARE AND ALL CHECK IF U HAVE A TOMMEE TIPPEE PREP MACHINE!!!!!!!!!

I never knew that hv and midwifes won't give advice on formula feed my 2 youngest are 2 and 3 and with both of them the midwifes and hv went though prepping a bottle and how to sterilise correctly.

"It is well known that UK tapwater is just as dangerous as undercooked chicken. FACT"

Nothing to do with tap water.

Everything to do with the fact that some batches of powdered formula have been found to be infected with salmonella and chronobacter, and tiny babies have immature immune systems.

Ravioli - your midwife was an idiot and you should report her.

It's the professional duty of midwives and health visitors to give advice on the safe use of formula to mothers who are ff.

What they are not supposed to do is routinely dish out advice about formula use antenatally by showing how to make up feeds because of evidence that parents don't retain this information well for after the birth and because assuming all mothers need advice on ff is undermining of breastfeeding.

IIRC the Health Visitor did advise us which formula to get. Back in 1999 they sold formula at the HV clinic and it was cheaper.

The choice of teats was a bit baffling but the sterilising was fine we just got a steam one.

The antenatal classes just made out BF would be a lovely walk in the park, and didn't cover anything different to that.

Astoria do you believe all the mothers on the TT FB group who have said their machines have mould in them despite cleaning and the use of the proper filters are just telling lies?

Where is your evidence for this?

So glad I'm past all of this bottle making palaver misses point of thread

I wish these machines had been around when my DCs were babies misses point of thread

I shared this post from stork sale I did not write it I shared it because obviously mouldy water is very bad for babies I don't own one but As I was told nhs do not recommend them as they are not as safe as using kettle method
I would always want to be informed if something I was using could harm my child I am sorry if it up set anyone

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ravioli - what research into the PP did you look at that convinced you it must be 100% safe?

Because TT hasn't released the details of their own research into the public sphere, and other independent testing hasn't backed up the claims they make for their product.

Does the 'research' you refer to actually amount to 'ask a few friends and read the marketing material from Tommee Tippee'?

Breastfeeding v Formula

Perfect Prep v Kettle

Why are people getting so upset about it? Your baby, make your choice. Simples.

molly you clearly believe every word of the TT marketing material.

"Why are people getting so upset about it? Your baby, make your choice. Simples"

Well - maybe because these machines may not always make up feeds safely as promised by the company and expected by the parents and this will result in some babies getting sick.

I'd just really urge everyone to have a look at the comments and pictures sent in by parents on TT's FB page.

Mini But that's not your problem to worry about. That's up to those who chose to use it.

I'd just really urge everyone to have a look at the comments and pictures sent in by parents on TT's FB page

I did. It's mostly people sharing the same photo - like the OP of this thread.

Anyway, I don't have to justify myself here. I just spoke to my health visitor who has no concerns, provided you buy new and clean as advised.

Flipping hell!

I used natural machines to dispense powder and water into a bottle with my 3. They're called ARMS AND HANDS. YOU SHOULD TRY USING THEM, THEYRE QUITE HANDY!

Good for you, Hate.

Everything to do with the fact that some batches of powdered formula have been found to be infected with salmonella and chronobacter, and tiny babies have immature immune systems.

Can you stop with the silly passive aggressive after every post? Pouring a bit of boiling water will sterilise of sorts, you can then add tap water. If it needs to be more effectively sterilised you'd need an autoclave which few of us have at home.

Both chronobacter and salmonella are super rare in formula and chronobacter extremely common everywhere, so a shoe licking baby needs no sterilised water. This hysterical nonsense is why worried people buy these ridiculous machines in the first place.

Pax - so you think it's fine for mothers to disregard the advice on making up feeds safely given by

• the NHS
• the food standards agency
• formula manufacturers themselves?

Any other official advice you suggest parents can safely disregard?

The instructions that come with car seats?

Safe sleeping advice?

Advice to pregnant women about reducing the risk of listeria etc?

Why is it only when it comes to the feeding of newborn babies is it suddenly OK to disregard the instructions given by manufacturers and health professionals on the basis that the risks are quite small?

Oh, and 'pouring a bit of boiling water' doesn't 'sterilise all sorts' in the case of the Tommee Tippee 'hot shot' - at least not according to the independent research referred to by the FSA, because it didn't come into contact with all the powder for long enough while staying at a high enough temperature, hence there was still traces of bacteria left in the made up milk.

And just for you:

Nothing 'passive' about that

Adults have to do their own risk assessments. Make the their own decisions. Advice is advice and can be taken or not.

We didn't have stairgates as I didn't see the point. Some would be horrified by that.

I feel like I've wandered on to NetHuns. WHY ALL THE CAPITAL LETTERS?

Now where's my glittery banner counting down to Brayden's birthday...

Can't imagine that's true about HV and Midwives not advising on formula. Ours did in 99/00 and told us which was best, where to get it, sterilising bottles and all that kind of thing. We actually bought it off the HV clinic because it was cheaper than the shops.

I used one of these when dd was a baby and I loved it! This new information would make me think twice about getting another if we have more children.

I really hate the sanctimony that appears on threads about these machines though, some posters think we are lazy shits for even buying one in the first place and I hate that I feel I have to defend myself for making a choice to make one small part of parenting slightly less arduous.

I bought mine when I gave up bf because I was finding it too hard, was physically and emotionally exhausted and experiencing pnd. I could barely take in the info on how to prepare formula on the side of the box, dd was not happy to wait for feeds to cool and didn't get on a schedule for quite a while. Bottle feeding seemed like such a mystery after all the talk of bf ante-natally that having a machine to make it simple seemed like a god-send. If the effort I put into parenting is judged on that alone then I think that's such a shame that I am now branded a 'lazy mum' because of using a perfect prep machine, doesn't all the hours I've spent playing/cuddling/feeding/cleaning up after/reading to dd etc count?