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Muslim prayers

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Amibeingtoosensitive · 14/03/2017 19:11

My DD (9) had R.E today
They were learning about Muslim prayers. All fine.
They then went on to get prayer mats and say a Muslim prayer, with their shoes off, on their knees as a group.

AIBU to feel uncomfortable about my DD being made to do a religious practice we do not believe in.

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ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 21:16

Anas

Just be happy you haven't had a confrontation with my Catholic grandmother.

I truly hope they won't do this when DD is older. THat would create soo much drama.

(Because Mohammed is apparently the anti-Christ etc...)

Vermillioncomfyshoes · 14/03/2017 21:16

I would love to no if the atheists out there still celebrate Christmas

We celebrate over the 'xmas' period, but we view it as a winter festival.

Do the non irish celebrate st patricks. Yes... ffs

Not here we don't and I don't know anybody who does. Why on earth would we?

Jazzywazzydodah · 14/03/2017 21:18

Does the christian faith/catholic/jewish faith all speak nonsense too?

Yes. Have you ever been to mass - it fucking creeps me out!

toffeeboffin · 14/03/2017 21:19

I'd be furious too.

School is for learning, not fairy tales.

pointstaken · 14/03/2017 21:19

I don't understand how an atheist parent can have a muslim/Catholic/Christian child. I don't understand how that could come about.

It's a Daily Mail thing Grin

Muslim prayers
Alfieisnoisy · 14/03/2017 21:19

A good friend of mine is Muslim, she said to me that her family loves Christmas. They decorate the house and eat a special meal on Xmas day. She said the only thing they don't do is buy presents for the children but says they get presents at other times of year.

woodhill · 14/03/2017 21:20

Yes, I agree Purple fine to learn but not to have to do the praying part.

ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 21:20

At least Islam came up with a more imaginative name

I thought Allah simply meant God in Arabic?

Jazzywazzydodah · 14/03/2017 21:20

I would love to no if the atheists out there still celebrate Christmas

Yes! Father Christmas is enjoyed here! I got an app last year where father xmas was in different rooms Grin

seagazer · 14/03/2017 21:23

From what i've read on here muslim parents would not be happy for their children to re enact a different religion than their own, , therefore i'm presuming it's not happened to them, but at the very least they'd expect to be asked first. Why do think teachers think it acceptable to not apply the same rules to all the faiths.

Bestthingever · 14/03/2017 21:23

I have three Muslim dcs and they have always been the only Muslim kids NOT to opt out of religious activities at school. One boy actually told ds1 that his parents said my dh was a bad Muslim because he had allowed ds1 to go on a trip to church. I called the boy's mother up and gave her a bollocking down the phone.

Vermillioncomfyshoes · 14/03/2017 21:23

Thats the thing. ALOT of muslim children attend non religious public schools and are still made to say the lords prayer is assembleys

That is simply not true, not even 50 years ago. Muslim parents would be up in arms and rightly so.

Clandestino · 14/03/2017 21:25

My DD goes to Catholic achool because it's the closest and the best school around. They pray, they cross themselves etc. I am a firm agnostic, don't care about religions but don't mind it. That's how I would feel about a Muslim prayer too. It's about various habits and cultures.

Alfieisnoisy · 14/03/2017 21:25

I've been to many a Mass...I love the Catholic Mass....it's a thing of beauty. (Am a bit odd like that).

DS went to a Catholic primary school because on,y they had a space when we moved to this area. He chose to attend Holy Communion classes which were in a Saturday because some of his friends were going too. I had a chat with him about this and said it would mean attending church etc. He was happy to attend church and so we did...all part of allowing him to make up his own mind. He chose to be baptised and do Holy a communion, he was also an Altar Server for a few months and then suddenly it died a death with him.

Me....I am more spiritual than religious. I love religious buildings and the feeling of peace within them.

My son did the whole religion thing but has passed through that...he may choose to go back or he may not.

One of my friends is a Catholic priest and has several brothers. They were all taken to church as children with the instruction that they could stop at age 16 if they wished. His brothers reached 16 and never went again...my friend became a Catholic priest. He doesn't discuss religion wi his family as ..in his words..."they tell me to leave the religion at the door"Grin

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 14/03/2017 21:26

I celebrate Christmas, but as more of a cultural thing rather than a religious thing. You'd be pretty naive to pretend it's all about the birth of Jesus these days if you've ever witnessed a Black Friday event.

ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 21:26

My DD goes to Catholic achool because it's the closest and the best school around. They pray, they cross themselves etc. I am a firm agnostic, don't care about religions but don't mind it

But you made that choice, didn't you...?

I think that's rather different, tbh...

Jazzywazzydodah · 14/03/2017 21:27

seagazer they do with some although not all.

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Amibeingtoosensitive · 14/03/2017 21:29

clandestino

But you expect them to observe religious practices at a Catholic school? Thats kind of the point of them! Our school isn't Catholic and I didn't expect this lesson today

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seagazer · 14/03/2017 21:30

Someone i worked with told me recently that she'd been to a catholic funeral mass, said it was the most beautiful and meaningful funeral she'd ever been to.

Jazzywazzydodah · 14/03/2017 21:30

My mothers family are Irish Catholics and maas just has such a foreboding feeling for me. TBH it's my mothers experience of that religion that made me detest religion as a whole.

Jazzywazzydodah · 14/03/2017 21:31

I literally wanted to shoot myself in the head when I was at a catholic christening.

ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 21:35

I literally wanted to shoot myself in the head when I was at a catholic christening.

I think they're usually quite calm...?

At least they don't speak in tongues, scream, dance, cry etc...

Anon1234567890 · 14/03/2017 21:40

Valentine2
There are at least over two billion people in this world who think there is. The more respect we give each other in these turbulent times the better.

Why do you need to take part in supernatural rituals to respect people that believe in the supernatural? I do not get why forcing normalization of supernatural belief on children who do not have the ability to resist is a good thing?

Porpoiselife · 14/03/2017 21:43

I think it's wrong.

I do not think religion of any kind has a place in schools. Unless you send your child to a religious school , it should not be taught.

Anon1234567890 · 14/03/2017 21:44

Christmas and Easter are still religious in origin

Celebrating nature does not equate to a religious origin. And that aside why is that relevant to the modern celebration of Santa or chocolate?