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Muslim prayers

426 replies

Amibeingtoosensitive · 14/03/2017 19:11

My DD (9) had R.E today
They were learning about Muslim prayers. All fine.
They then went on to get prayer mats and say a Muslim prayer, with their shoes off, on their knees as a group.

AIBU to feel uncomfortable about my DD being made to do a religious practice we do not believe in.

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PurpleDaisies · 14/03/2017 20:39

By learning about the prayer and how its preformed is basically learning a big part of islam.

Learning about prayer is not the same as praying.

ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 20:40

Onegreatday - prayer in islam is basically a huge deal, 5 times a day. By learning about the prayer and how its preformed is basically learning a big part of islam.

Are you suggesting praying isn't important in Christianity or Judaism?

If the school does this they should "offer" a similar prayer opportunity when they're learning abour Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Judaism, Christianity, Shintoism...

Onegreatday · 14/03/2017 20:40

Boobeesh- as I said in my post, learning about it doesnt have to require actual carrying out of actions and chants, great to learn about all faiths but as I said, many different ways of imparting that information that is still fun and educational.

ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 20:40

And if they don't the school is clearly biased and... well, not racist. "Religionist", I guess (as somebody has said before)

TheFirstMrsDV · 14/03/2017 20:41

but this gets me really worked up I'm afraid

Job done then

Booshbeesh · 14/03/2017 20:42

Pretend to be a jew... force fed... oh for god sakes. If you child dislakes drawing are they forced to do art. If you child is dyslexic are they forced to learn?

Your post is ridiculous. And the fact you can so freely speak your prejudice mind proves how small it truely is. My muslim daughter is visiting a gurdwara she HAS to cover her head if she wants to attend. I am an athiest and have NO problem with this because she is 7 and her mind is being taught and opened to all the other beautiful things in this world.
She has celebrated diwali. She had celebrated christmas easter.

I would love to no if the atheists out there still celebrate christmas and easter two RELIGIOUS holidays in england. Do the non irish celebrate st patricks. Yes... ffs. Get a grip

Anon1234567890 · 14/03/2017 20:43

But hopefully someone stepped in and told you not to be abusive and overly dramatic?

Where do you draw the line?

Would you draw the line at a child abusing catholic satanic fictional cult religion?

Booshbeesh · 14/03/2017 20:43

But islam is about prayer and your devotion to Allah. What better way to learn then to take part. How do you learn about tennis or football by watching or playing

ChippieBeanAndHorro · 14/03/2017 20:44

My muslim daughter is visiting a gurdwara she HAS to cover her head if she wants to attend.

Yes, because visiting a place of worship is the same as going to school?

Hmm
Onegreatday · 14/03/2017 20:45

Booshbeast - but that's the point, these children weren't actually showing their devotion, or practicing in order to be able to.

Anasnake · 14/03/2017 20:45

What if they were learning about Buddhism and had done some basic meditation - would that have provoked outrage ??

Booshbeesh · 14/03/2017 20:45

Prayer is always important in religion and i would.welcome my children learning about all the different prayer of all the different religions. My post was to someone who said they dont have to do the prayer to learn about it. But considering prayer is a major part of islam what better way to learnt then to do it?

pointstaken · 14/03/2017 20:45

Booshbeesh it's completely different to show respect for another religion and to cover your head for example. It's another thing entirely to mimick something that makes no sense to you, it's very disrespectful and i would strongly complain. You do not force people to pray in this country, muslim, christian, jewish or any religious prayer.

Katurah · 14/03/2017 20:46

As an RE teacher I am quite appalled by this. It's bad practice and the teacher should have known better. Unfortunately in primary schools students are rarely taught by a specialist and RE is notoriously under planned and poorly executed. I would complain to the school personally, this is in bad taste. RE should be about informing students of different cultural, religious and non religious beliefs and equipping students with the skills to evaluate and critically assess these viewpoints whilst guiding them to form their own well informed opinions.

Or so it is in my school anyway!

PurpleDaisies · 14/03/2017 20:46

How do you learn about tennis or football by watching or playing?

I've never taken part in a lot of sports I know a lot about...F1, rugby, ice dancing etc.

You can easily teach the children about religions without making actually doing the rituals as part of the lesson.

Booshbeesh · 14/03/2017 20:47

Learning about religion and visiting a place to worship are the same are they not? They both lessons? No they wasnt showing devotion they were learning about the understanding and inportance of prayer in islam!

SuperBeagle · 14/03/2017 20:47

I would love to no if the atheists out there still celebrate christmas and easter two RELIGIOUS holidays in england. Do the non irish celebrate st patricks. Yes... ffs. Get a grip

I'm an atheist. We don't do Easter, and we don't celebrate any religious aspect of Christmas (a celebration that the Christians nicked from the Pagans anyway, so hardly sacrosanct).

scanbran · 14/03/2017 20:47

I went with ds's year on a school trip to the mosque. The children had a great time trying on clothes, learning a few arabic words etc. At no time did the mosque representative feel that they were "parodying" Islam.

Jazzywazzydodah · 14/03/2017 20:48

You don't have to pray to a 'god' to understand it.

pointstaken · 14/03/2017 20:48

I would love to know the reaction if a group of muslim children were told to say the Lord's Prayer at school.

Booshbeesh · 14/03/2017 20:48

Ohh okay.. so lets let the children watch a video and read a few books about handwriting instead of actually letting them write. Lets tell them about blending of words etc and not actual.let them read. Because u no, learning can be done at its best by just being told.

Chloe84 · 14/03/2017 20:49

YABU. At school in 90s London, I took communion in church (bread wafer), took part in Hindu prayers and ate blessed food, went to a mosque and a Sikh temple.

I think it helps kids understand the religions of other people and therefore they don't fear them. Ignorance leads to fear.

Bambambini · 14/03/2017 20:49

I don't like my kids being told to seriously pray to a god at sll at school - no matter what religion it is.

If they were learning about a certain religion or culture and - mmm, maybe not as bothered as lobg it wasn't being presented as truth and prayer demanded.

Onegreatday · 14/03/2017 20:49

Anasnaje - meditation can be a spiritual as well as religious practice.

eggcurry · 14/03/2017 20:49

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