To think that people living on welfare shouldn't be running off every five minutes for a new tattoo or piercing?

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I'm probably going to get shot down for this, but I just had a little disagreement with a woman I know. She posted a photo on Facebook of a rather large tattoo on her forearm that she'd just had done. Last month she had skin divers put in her chest and hand. The month before she had another shit tattoo.
This individual is single and has two children. She hasn't worked a day in the last decade, but is living off the state. Am I being a bitch by thinking she should spend the money she receives on feeding the children and keeping a roof over their heads? I noted that she feeds her boys Pot Noodle for dinner but makes sure she's got her fags too. It just annoys me.

Take advantage of the system!

Bollocks just look at the criteria for claiming any benefit. You cannot get a penny unless you prove you're looking for work

Yes, my DH gets private healthcare through work so we don't use the NHS. I wish we could opt-out of paying into it.

Do you want to opt out of receiving emergency treatment? As far as I'm aware you won't get a private ambulance picking you up to take you to a private hospital if you crash your car or collapse in the street.

I couldn't give a rats arse where money/income is gained from, benefits and/or earned. Don't care what size someone is, but if any parent truly puts their children's welfare behind fags/drink/body art then that is a reflection on them as a parent only

I buy 2nd hand books from amazon marketplace but the postage is usually £2.49 which Increases the charge for the book somewhat.

Not if you have children below a certain age. Although I accept that is going to change in future due to benefit cuts. Or someone could work the minimum and refuse to work more as that would affect their benefits.

I was locked in and my phone taken off me when I dared to try to call the police. Didn't see much point in calling the police later as it was my word against his and he had done a good job of convincing me that no one would believe me.

I hope to god these posters that think leaving an abusive relationship/getting out of the abuse lifetrap is so easy never have a child who ends up in an abusive relationship as they'll be sod all help to them.

Annesmyth123 yes it will cost about £2.80 for in total with postage. Still cheaper than Waterstones.

@UnbornMortificado

So the "different fathers" part although a fact, is irrelevant?
How convenient.........

I notice you haven't commented on my lived experience of abuse. And how I failed your test. As did Portia. And natsku.

I can get books free to my tablet. I don't need t buy them apart from specialist ones that Waterstones don't stock.

What claimants get put through in the UK sounds so demoralising and demeaning - how is that supposed to help anyone? What do people do when they get sanctioned? Is there a back up benefit available to keep them off the street? (In Finland we have income support for those that can't get any other money or not enough money and at most they can lower it by a certain percentage but its not allowed to stop it altogether)

There is a hardship loan evidenced below

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/universal-credit/sanctions/hardship-payment/

Doesn't sound like its too helpful, sounds like it could lead to cycles of debt.

I buy second hand books for 1p from amazon marketplace.
I too buy second hand books. Waterstones was a flippant comment. Yet again though, expected to justify my spending.

iLoveCoffee what exactly does it have to do with welfare? You don't get extra money per father.

It's just used as another stick to beat women with. I've never seen a bloke judged so harshly for having children with different women

Thanks for that nceccoli. You just made me feel totally shit. That's utter victim blaming. Right there. What the fuck?

neccoli do some reading on domestic violence

i can't even type a sensible answer now. This thread is truly mind fuckery and victim blamey. What on earth is going on with it I have no idea but there so,w people who clearly have an empathy by pass.

Dont feel shit because of some far right judgy person who only views people in terms of monetary value.

Trying to access those laws and being subsequently failed by the police/social services/court system can result in your death because you have dared to expose your abuser.

If you had young children would you care to roll that dice, N?

Do you know ANYTHING about DV at all?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10328442

I cannot believe how fucking horrible someone can be

Given that MN is supposed to be a place of support for women, im surprised that blaming someone for being a victim of dv doesnt earn a banning

So the "different fathers" part although a fact, is irrelevant? How convenient

You don't think that people should be allowed to leave relationships where they are unhappy/have the living daylights beaten out of them and move into new relationships?

What do you think of fathers who leave unhappy/have the living daylights beaten out of them relationships and then move on to have other children?

Is it OK for dad because you assume he will both work and support the 'new' family and pay maintenance to the 'old'? But not OK for mum because she will always be a single mum on benefits? Single mums on benefits never end up there due to circumstances of their marriages breaking down? Single mums on benefits never go on to pick themselves up and become tax payers?