Honestly, to all intensive purposes you will thank me for this one day

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I'm in no position to join the grammar police but some MNetters might be grateful to learn that

all intensive purposes should actually be: all intents and purposes

per say should be: per se

mute point should be: moot point

You should try sitting with 11yo DD. She's annoyingly well known for correcting DSs grammar, and mine. To be fair I need it evidently I blame her grandma and great grandma. Hope she's this pernickity when it gets around to her SATS

Livia - they make yourself want to scream?

notasnowflake Never heard of irony?
Do keep up.

Gin 😭😭😭😭😱😱😱😱😱

Comedy typos are fab - I sent a message asking someone if they felt better after a nap and do some reason it autocorrected to 'anal'

My best was "people should not be wanking in the fast lane of the pool" instead of "walking".

That's brilliant! 😂

Some people do love to look down on people who have poor grammar, like they're better than them.

Some people can't help it.

let's ought to have been let's!
autocorrect fail combined with lack of proof reading
Then again am I all that bovvered about what people on mn think about me?
Not really, mn is light entertainment for the most part, the opinions of other people on here are of no consequence

Some people may look down on them - I don't. Things like 'would of' can seem right if you only hear the words spoken (depending on the accent).

But nobody is piling in and having a pop at someone who has posted about an issue - it's a discussion, the same as all the other discussions about what annoys you in life.

My man uses "calm and collective" instead of "calm and collected" I do love to correct him

I'm an editor by trade and I really can't get worked up over this.

Dyslexia is a disability, people without SENs sometimes make mistakes, and people have differing skills, levels of education and first languages.

I've edited papers from world-leading oncologists who can't use apostrophes, but they're fucking curing cancer so I can't really claim any moral high ground!

But nobody is piling in and having a pop at someone who has posted about an issue - it's a discussion, the same as all the other discussions about what annoys you in life.

Yes, this. And it is a valid discussion, as etymology and the evolution of language is interesting. But I resent that language may evolve due to sloppiness and a general sense of "as long as you can get your point across, who cares?"

I see this thread as lighthearted, which is what no doubt it was meant as.

I do desagree with Worra about grammar being the least of someone's problems. Bad grammar limits your work and career choices. It contributes to miserable living children conditions.

We have extensive free education. Why don't we use it?

Why do we see bad grammar as something inevitable or worse, as something to be proud of?

That'll teach me!

I'll get off that particular soap box now!

I got called a 'grammar nartsy' the other day.

My head nearly exploded. But at least they spelled grammar right

I got called a 'grammar nartsy' the other day.

!!!! But what does that person think a 'nartsy' is? That implies that any education about WW2 and the Nazis has passed them by, along with spelling and grammar.

Sorry op I think it's sneery and unnecessary too.

Sen, including dyslexia, physical disabilities including sight loss (speech to type software can be appalling for using the wrong word), esol speakers especially those who HAVEN'T been taught English formally but are self taught, all very good explanations for why the writers English may be less than perfect.

In addition some of the 'errors' mentioned aren't considered errors but dialectal difference. And in informal settings - such as a chat board, people tend to type as they speak.

I've an English degree linguistic and dialectal history modules were included. All languages are fluid and perpetually evolving, we no longer write/speak like Chaucer or even Shakespeare, or Austen or Dickens.

Italians no longer speak in pure Latin (just ask Dante Alighieri).

Word and phrase meanings, spelling and usage change.

We see it most with teenage subversive usage - 'sick' 'bad' but also with the creation of new words through eg advertising and the creation of portmanteau words, brand names becoming verbs 'hoover' 'sellotape' ...

I think it's fascinating.

My Mum was barely educated post war. She's very aware that her spelling, grammar & punctuation are poor. She reads a lot, she's tried learning from text books, night school, online courses etc but she simply cannot remember 'the rules'. Even 'easy' ones. She had a successful career, but held herself back from her full potential because she was so worried about looking 'thick' or being shown up in front of others. She is retired now & she would love to volunteer, but she will not because she's too scared they'll expect her to write things down & she will be humiliated.

Society misses out when you simply cannot accept that not everyone can remember 'the rules'.

My best friend spells everything phonetically (or rather, her version of it) - if you read it in 'her voice', it easy, otherwise less so. She stopped posting on here because of comments that were made. Such as shame as she's one of the kindest, most lovely people you will ever meet.

Me...auto correct fucks it up nicely for me. I don't even understand why it feels the need to change things that are correct, but it does. Shrug.

maras2 Well clearly you haven't!

Do keep up lovey...!!!! 👍🏻

'Frit to death' is

and is tret a word, I thought it was treated but dunno

I've an English degree linguistic and dialectal history modules were included. All languages are fluid and perpetually evolving, we no longer write/speak like Chaucer or even Shakespeare, or Austen or Dickens.

I agree it's fascinating. But do you want English to evolve into a language where 'chester draws' has the same meaning as 'chest of drawers'? Because I don't.

'Treat' pronounced tret is dialectal and perfectly acceptable in Scotland.

Someone once tried to tell me 'flit' wasn't a real word (scrabble game) not only is it a real word in Scotland it has a specific legal definition.

I do desagree with Worra about grammar being the least of someone's problems. Bad grammar limits your work and career choices. It contributes to miserable living children conditions.

Then I think you read it out of context. I was talking about the people in my borough, using Mumsnet due to all the problems I listed - such as DV, addictions etc.

Their grammar really would be the least of their problems and while I know MNetters tend not to pull someone up on these things if they're posting about a serious problem, I don't think multiple threads like this would exactly encourage them to post.

But I'm going to bugger off now as I can see this thread was meant as a bit of a laugh and I seem to have poured a bucket of piss over it