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AIBU to expect my MIL to look after my DC for a couple of hours while we look after her elderly, frail sister?

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Semiurban · 23/02/2017 12:23

I’m feeling hurt and angry with my in-laws and DH. MIL has always been critical of me and undermines me. On our wedding day she came out after the church service and quizzed my closest friend about whether I would look after her DS properly. I’m a second wife. His first wife was treated similarly until they divorced. Now she can do no wrong.

Everything has to revolve around MIL. She is controlling and my DH can’t see it. He tells me she is sweet and kind, in the absence of all evidence to the contrary. Because of her propensity for drama and tears disrupting every family celebration and fun time, I have very little to do with her. I see her about twice a year. I have posted about her before when she invited us to come to her for lunch, only to tell us after we’d driven 100 miles that we were in a restaurant that didn’t allow dogs. She’d previously said I should bring the dog. She and my DCs and DH ate (for over two hours!) while I sat in the bar area with the dog. I was made to feel really awful for this and DH told me off for being too rigid and making a fuss. I didn’t fuss. I just sat.

To the current upset: MIL has an older sister in her 80s who is a widow and has no children. I’ll call her Aunty J. Aunty J and I have a warmer relationship and speak on the phone regularly. We remember each others birthdays and she seems genuinely interested in the DCs and supportive of us as a family. We are not massively close, but she was like a second mum to my DH when he was growing up and I have a lot of feelings of care and respect towards her.

Aunty J has been ill. She had a series of falls last year and a hip replacement and has osteoporosis. We live about 150 miles away. MIL, FIL, SIL and BIL are all a few miles from Aunty J. This week Aunty J told me she had fractured several vertebrae and is bed bound. She sounded very low and not her usual self. DH and I are worried about her. MIL hasn’t visited her in weeks, as she doesn’t want to impose. Her words.

I suggested that we visit this weekend, to see if Aunty J needs care, help with washing, sheets changed, food cooked, or if we need to get carers in, which I suspect we do. I would gladly bring her back to live with us for a while if she wanted that, but I am not sure she would want to do that.

My MIL and FIL live in a four bedroom house but whenever we visit we cannot stay with them, “because we are not equipped”. They invite us for lunch and then grumble about how much effort it is “to entertain”. My MIL does not cook, she heats ready meals. In the past she tried to feed my 18 month DD a packet of digestive biscuits because she hadn’t bought any food for her, even though DD ate most of whatever we would be eating, MIL told me biscuits would be more nourishing and cried when I took the biscuits away. If I challenge anything, she bursts into tears and accuses me of being aggressive. So whenever we visit, I now take my own food, activities for my DCs and am polite for a few hours, while feeling quite disappointed that this is their relationship with their grandparents. My ILs do not interact with the DC at all, except to sort of “coo” over them in an “ooh, isn’t she pretty/ clever” kind of way.

My FIL has never hugged, picked up or cuddled my DCs. He tried to shake DD (5) hand and she laughed at him and gave him a kiss. He tried to shoo her away when she wanted to cuddle him. It makes me tearful recollecting it.

So, this weekend we are driving on Saturday night as I am working on Saturday, putting the dog in kennels overnight, staying in a hotel that is expensive for us to do, and then seeing Aunty J the following morning. I asked MIL if she would help look after my two youngest (2 and 5) while we see what needs doing at Aunty J and MIL told me not to impose and that she didn't know them well enough to be left with them. I was upset and my Dh took her side and told me not to expect too much and that it is my decision “to impose”. DH told me I have to make another plan for the DCs. He also wants them to come with us so they have an opportunity to see his parents as apparently MIL is sad she doesn't get to see them more often.

I am worried that we have an elderly relative in her 80s who is immobile and in pain and just wanted to be met part way in an attempt to look after her. However, DH and I had a big argument last night and he says because his DM cherished him when he was a boy, I need to respect her. I said respect had to be earned. AIBU?

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CaptainMarvelDanvers · 23/02/2017 15:11

Your MIL sounds a pain in the backside but honestly, your husband sounds 10 times worse.

SanitysSake · 23/02/2017 15:15

I'm sat here shouting at the screen 'WTF'?!

As an option, do you have family/friends who could look after the kids for an evening?

Secondly - I would not be kowtowing to ANY of this womans whinges and whines. She is a classic narcissist. Your husband is devastatingly a mummy's boy who needs to back you - not constantly be trying to climb back into the womb of his needy mother.

I'm with everyone else. Leave your husband to look after his own children. You go and see Aunty (agree with the Spa idea) and bugger the rest of them. You're a thoroughly decent human being.

They, are off their rockers!

DJBaggySmalls · 23/02/2017 15:18

Laughing at the suggestion you can leave all dogs in the car. It might have been a heatwave. Some dogs get bored/stressed and chew things.
I agree you have bigger problems than just MIL. Good luck Semiurban.

KatharinaRosalie · 23/02/2017 15:23

DH told me off for being too rigid and making a fuss. I didn’t fuss. I just sat.

I just can't get over it.

Restaurant - oh, we can't have dogs in that room, but you can all sit here instead
PILs - no thanks. Semi can sit there and watch while we eat.
DH - Semi, why are you not more grateful and joyful? What's with the rigid sitting? No jig on the bar counter for our amusement?

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 23/02/2017 15:24

DH and mil sound like a pair of arseholes, presumably fIL too if he's happy with you being so badly treated.

SenseiWoo · 23/02/2017 15:33

Don't bother arguing with your DH about his mother any more (I would be quite tempted to bark 'Sod off' or 'Fake news!' at everything he said about her, but I appreciate that's not really constructive).

Seriously, from now on just tell him -never her, avoid talking to her as much as possible- what you will do and what you will not do where his parents are concerned. Never mind the whys and wherefores, he isn't listening. If he persists in asking, tell him your withdrawal is not to do with his mother directly, more that proximity to her turns him into a twat.

(My MIL genuinely did turn DH into a teenage twat. I felt deep deep sympathy for him, having a mother who was unkind to him, but still told him that unless he learned not to take it out on me he would have to visit his folks on his own for ever more. He learned not to take it out on me).

knackeredinyorkshire · 23/02/2017 15:44

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Sung · 23/02/2017 15:55

Your PIL sound very self centred, lazy and generally awful. They've done a real number on your DH - he seems to see them as normal and everyone else as not. That really is the worst of it - that he doesn't see them and their behaviour for what it is.

It sounds like you will be visiting Aunty J by yourself as your husband indulges his parents. What a sad state of affairs that her own sister hasn't bothered to visit her in weeks under the guise of 'not imposing'.

I wouldn't bother with your PIL at all after this.

TheFullMrexit · 23/02/2017 16:09

really confused by your op - mil has complained doesnt see dc enough so you have to take them and yet wont look after them for a few hours while you go and see her sister?

This is bonkers. I dont understand?
As for the aunt just take the DC its not ideal but I have done it, take tablets, phones whatever - lap top with stuff on to entertain them.

I would go and not see mil at all but thats me Smile Your dh sounds crushed.

TheFullMrexit · 23/02/2017 16:11

Grin Katherina - it beggars belife

BoboChic · 23/02/2017 16:13

You are being a martyr, OP. Aunty J is not your responsibility and you should step away.

diddl · 23/02/2017 16:23

I don't think that Op is being a martyr for want to to see & help out Aunty J.

Perhaps best not to involve anyone else though?

TheWinterOfOurDiscountTents · 23/02/2017 16:27

Bit unfair to Aunty J, who appears to be the only person in that family who isn't an arsehole. Why advise OP to cut Aunty J off?

TheWinterOfOurDiscountTents · 23/02/2017 16:28

really confused by your op - mil has complained doesnt see dc enough so you have to take them and yet wont look after them for a few hours while you go and see her sister

What is confusing? MIL wants to see the children but not actually do anything for them, so complains OP doesn't bring them but then won't mind them.

TheFullMrexit · 23/02/2017 16:33

even more confused now the winter Grin

Birdsbeesandtrees · 23/02/2017 16:44

The lunch incident would have made me explode.

I can't believe your DH didn't just say "ok then we will eat somewhere else" instead he had you sit in the bar alone the entire time ?

I think he's more of a problem than your MIL.

LadyPW · 23/02/2017 16:44

I don't think that Op is being a martyr for want to to see & help out Aunty J.
I agree. Aunty J sounds lovely (as does OP for sitting in the bar with DDog - though definitely missed a trick for not accidentally dropping the lead & whispering 'go find DH, go on boy, food that way'!). I would definitely look to trade in DH & MIL/FIL for Aunty J.

FrancisCrawford · 23/02/2017 16:46

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Semiurban · 23/02/2017 16:51

I don't want to step away from Aunty J. She's an older person, in pain and needs help. It feels a basic human thing to do. She's my DHs aunt, my DCs great aunt. I'd do the same for other family and older people in our village. People around her are behaving in disappointing ways, but I don't see that as reflecting on what I could/ would do to help her.

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senua · 23/02/2017 16:54

I think that OP needs to be careful about setting a precedent. What are you going to do when PIL are in the same position as Aunty J - will you be going up to minister to them too?
Make it abundantly clear (to PIL, 'D'H) that you are doing this because you like Aunty J (because she's a likeable person) and there is no guarantee that you be doing the same for toxic PIL.

FrancisCrawford · 23/02/2017 16:56

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Semiurban · 23/02/2017 17:00

No, I'm not thinking of stepping away from DH. I know that he ought to back me up. But, I only see MIL about twice a year now and I think we all have flaws.

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diddl · 23/02/2017 17:04

So what do you think that you will do, Op?

Go alone?

Leave husband & kids at ILs for most/all of the visit to Aunty J?

WhereYouLeftIt · 23/02/2017 17:19

That's one hell of a big flaw your husband has. His treatment of you is quite shameful.

ImperialBlether · 23/02/2017 17:30

Another one here who thinks your husband is behaving very, very badly. I don't think you've said one thing about him that makes me think he has an ounce of kindness in him.

I agree with PPs about your husband's aunt - you can bet your life that if you take her into your home, you will find it very hard to argue that you shouldn't be the carer for your MIL one day.

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