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AIBU?

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AIBU to expect my MIL to look after my DC for a couple of hours while we look after her elderly, frail sister?

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Semiurban · 23/02/2017 12:23

I’m feeling hurt and angry with my in-laws and DH. MIL has always been critical of me and undermines me. On our wedding day she came out after the church service and quizzed my closest friend about whether I would look after her DS properly. I’m a second wife. His first wife was treated similarly until they divorced. Now she can do no wrong.

Everything has to revolve around MIL. She is controlling and my DH can’t see it. He tells me she is sweet and kind, in the absence of all evidence to the contrary. Because of her propensity for drama and tears disrupting every family celebration and fun time, I have very little to do with her. I see her about twice a year. I have posted about her before when she invited us to come to her for lunch, only to tell us after we’d driven 100 miles that we were in a restaurant that didn’t allow dogs. She’d previously said I should bring the dog. She and my DCs and DH ate (for over two hours!) while I sat in the bar area with the dog. I was made to feel really awful for this and DH told me off for being too rigid and making a fuss. I didn’t fuss. I just sat.

To the current upset: MIL has an older sister in her 80s who is a widow and has no children. I’ll call her Aunty J. Aunty J and I have a warmer relationship and speak on the phone regularly. We remember each others birthdays and she seems genuinely interested in the DCs and supportive of us as a family. We are not massively close, but she was like a second mum to my DH when he was growing up and I have a lot of feelings of care and respect towards her.

Aunty J has been ill. She had a series of falls last year and a hip replacement and has osteoporosis. We live about 150 miles away. MIL, FIL, SIL and BIL are all a few miles from Aunty J. This week Aunty J told me she had fractured several vertebrae and is bed bound. She sounded very low and not her usual self. DH and I are worried about her. MIL hasn’t visited her in weeks, as she doesn’t want to impose. Her words.

I suggested that we visit this weekend, to see if Aunty J needs care, help with washing, sheets changed, food cooked, or if we need to get carers in, which I suspect we do. I would gladly bring her back to live with us for a while if she wanted that, but I am not sure she would want to do that.

My MIL and FIL live in a four bedroom house but whenever we visit we cannot stay with them, “because we are not equipped”. They invite us for lunch and then grumble about how much effort it is “to entertain”. My MIL does not cook, she heats ready meals. In the past she tried to feed my 18 month DD a packet of digestive biscuits because she hadn’t bought any food for her, even though DD ate most of whatever we would be eating, MIL told me biscuits would be more nourishing and cried when I took the biscuits away. If I challenge anything, she bursts into tears and accuses me of being aggressive. So whenever we visit, I now take my own food, activities for my DCs and am polite for a few hours, while feeling quite disappointed that this is their relationship with their grandparents. My ILs do not interact with the DC at all, except to sort of “coo” over them in an “ooh, isn’t she pretty/ clever” kind of way.

My FIL has never hugged, picked up or cuddled my DCs. He tried to shake DD (5) hand and she laughed at him and gave him a kiss. He tried to shoo her away when she wanted to cuddle him. It makes me tearful recollecting it.

So, this weekend we are driving on Saturday night as I am working on Saturday, putting the dog in kennels overnight, staying in a hotel that is expensive for us to do, and then seeing Aunty J the following morning. I asked MIL if she would help look after my two youngest (2 and 5) while we see what needs doing at Aunty J and MIL told me not to impose and that she didn't know them well enough to be left with them. I was upset and my Dh took her side and told me not to expect too much and that it is my decision “to impose”. DH told me I have to make another plan for the DCs. He also wants them to come with us so they have an opportunity to see his parents as apparently MIL is sad she doesn't get to see them more often.

I am worried that we have an elderly relative in her 80s who is immobile and in pain and just wanted to be met part way in an attempt to look after her. However, DH and I had a big argument last night and he says because his DM cherished him when he was a boy, I need to respect her. I said respect had to be earned. AIBU?

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DartmoorDoughnut · 23/02/2017 13:07

Fair dos your DH is pathetic. I like lattelady's suggestion!

NoraCharlesMartiniGlass · 23/02/2017 13:07

I'm with lots of PP. And I absolutely don't understand why your H says it's you that "has" to make another plan for your DCs. It should totally be him!

Semiurban · 23/02/2017 13:08

May09Bump, thank you. I've been imagining being housebound and in pain, but I didn't think through the practicalities of hygiene etc. Really appreciate your insight.

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LadyPW · 23/02/2017 13:09

Do what Latte said & go on your own. Have an enjoyable trip, see Aunty J, and plan how you're going to cut DH's apron strings on your return.
I think he was bang out of order on the dog / meal front - since your MIL had said to bring the dog then he should have insisted that you all go somewhere else dog-friendly. Not gone and had a 2-hour lunch!!!!

LadyPW · 23/02/2017 13:09

And I'd second Annie's idea as a long-term solution!

Semiurban · 23/02/2017 13:12

The restaurant offered to move us all to the bar area but MIL & FIL liked their existing table better. Can't believe I'm now ruminating about doggate. Give me a (dog) biscuit someone.

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ArcheryAnnie · 23/02/2017 13:12

You sound lovely. Your DH and MIL do not.

I think LatteLady's idea is brilliant - leave the kids with him and go by yourself.

And don't bother visiting your MIL ever again. If your DH wants to go, that's fine. If he wants to take the kids, too, that's fine. Your MIL can complain about you behind your back rather than complaining about you to your face, because it seems like she's going to complain regardless of what you actually do, so it's pointless expending any time or effort trying to please her.

ArcheryAnnie · 23/02/2017 13:14

Oh, and if she pulls anything like doggate ever again, just say "but you WANTED me to bring the dog", then load the dog and the kids straight back into the car and drive home. She sounds, well, barking.

BreconBeBuggered · 23/02/2017 13:19

On a practical note, you might want to contact the NOS about the kind of help your Aunty J might need. Fractured vertebrae are not fun. nos.org.uk/for-people-and-families/osteoporosis-help-and-support/

Pinbasket · 23/02/2017 13:27

Is there any way you could ask someone to look after them in your home overnight and on the Sunday? The you and DH could spend maximum time helping Aunty and assessing the situation she's in. She's likely to need quite a lot of housework alone and two pairs of hands is better than one! Plus time to chat with her about long term help and support will make the day go very quickly- it's a long way to travel for a short space of time, so you really need to use the time you do have, to the hilt.
Btw it's really nice of you to do this for aunty J!

diddl · 23/02/2017 13:34

If you all go, won't your husband just piss off to his parents with the kids?

When MIL cried about the bisuits, how on earth did you not pat her own the head & say "you can have one later if you're good"?

BarbarianMum · 23/02/2017 13:43

And your dh was OK with this. Shock Apologies for my earlier comment - you're not a martyr, you're a f*cking saint!

HashiAsLarry · 23/02/2017 13:43

Given your MILs previous form you probably shouldn't expect her to babysit even if she agreed to it, she'd likely change the plan and be somewhere else when you showed up.

Go on your own if you can and enjoy the break

senua · 23/02/2017 13:45

It looks like one needs to visit Aunty J and the other needs to look after the DC. You stay at home with the DC and send DH and see how he copes without you.

Wishiwasmoiradingle2017 · 23/02/2017 13:46

I like the family reshuffle idea.
You +dc+aunty J.

And dh back with mil!!
And you keep the dog obviously.

BlisseyMon · 23/02/2017 13:53

The restaurant thing sounds really peculiar Confused Do to think your PIL were thinking that you were being deliberately contrary by not putting the dog in the car or outside. IYSWIM Did you ask your DH if he would swap with you for a while or did you say you were happy to sit apart from them?

natienka · 23/02/2017 13:59

Christ! What a strange family. She might be a PITA person but I think it actually points to some bigger problems, MIL, FIL, and possibly your husband perhaps have issues with emotional attachment etc. So I think it's best to be kind and assume something is not right, rather than they simply consciously want too hurt you.
That obviously doesn't help you short term; I wouldn't leave kids with PILs, but leave them with DH. I definitely think this needs some proper conversation, but since he doesn't seem to see your arguments - I'd thoroughly recommend counselling. He may not see that anything is wrong, but you do, and tell him this will be better for both of you and children as well.
Now, depending on how good he is at refuting your arguments, I would simply copy what you wrote here, or wrote down how you felt and some examples, and bring that to the counselling session. That's much more difficult to refute than a silver-tongued person if you're just in a conversation with a counsellor that doesn't know either of you.
Hope you don't mind this advice!

GabsAlot · 23/02/2017 14:01

you have a dh problem hes not backing you up on anything-tell him unless he starts u wont be visiting her anymore

senua · 23/02/2017 14:02

Now, depending on how good he is at refuting your arguments, I would simply point out that MIL has already cost him one marriage, does he want to make it two?

KatharinaRosalie · 23/02/2017 14:09

DH told me I have to make another plan for the DCs

So you are going to see and help his aunt, and you have to make another plan for the DC?

And what Barbarian said. The restaurant offered to move you all, PILs said no thanks, they prefer if you sit at the bar, your DH agreed, and then whined that you were apparently not sufficiently cheerful??

This sounds just utterly bonkers.

PovertyPain · 23/02/2017 14:21

No offence but your mil AND your husband are two selfish arseholes? I'm so angry reading this. I can't believe your fucking husband sat with his mummy and daddy while his wife sat at a bar. How long are you going to put up with this shit behaviour?

ArcheryAnnie · 23/02/2017 14:40

The restaurant offered to move you all, PILs said no thanks, they prefer if you sit at the bar, your DH agreed, and then whined that you were apparently not sufficiently cheerful??

I think KatherinaRosalie has summed up the problem very well.

I think the only aspect of this entire story where you have been the slightest bit unreasonable, Semiurban, is in not running amok in the restaurant with the dog and tipping over their restaurant table after that kind of treatment!

ChasedByBees · 23/02/2017 14:56

The restaurant offered to move you all, PILs said no thanks, they prefer if you sit at the bar, your DH agreed, and then whined that you were apparently not sufficiently cheerful??

YY to this. Your DH is the worst in this for me as he lets his wife be treated terribly. Your MIL couldn't do this without him as an accomplice. It's like he expects you to solve all problems / take all the crap. Has he forgotten that it is his dog as well, his aunt you're trying to help and his children too?

TheWinterOfOurDiscountTents · 23/02/2017 15:04

Your MIL is a total weapon but your DH is worse. He let you sit alone for 2 hours while he had lunch with his parents and children, and did nothing? He facilitated them being so horrible to you. How can he defend himself and why have you let him away with it, repeatedly from the sounds of it?

Semiurban · 23/02/2017 15:06

Thank you all so much. It's really helpful to have the osteoporosis information. I don't know much about it and didn't realise that there was a lot of help available.

So many of you have made me smile and laugh on this thread. It's really welcome and has cheered me up. I've called AuntyJ and she was just mid home-visit from her GP, so we are going to have a chat later when the DCs are in bed and make a plan.

It really means a lot that some thoughtful Mumsnetters took the time to read and respond today. Thank you.

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