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friend has effectively turned into a robot since starting her MLM business..

102 replies

ollieplimsoles · 16/02/2017 21:15

AIBU to think that MLM businesses ask that you completely change your personality to sell their crap products?

I have a friend from college, love her and loved keeping up to date with her witty facebook posts, tweets and instagram pics. She has a really clever sense of humour I always loved.

Recently though she has started her own MLM business and she is totally different on social media. All her photos are related to the products, her posts honestly sound like she has been told to write them and her photos have cringy filters over them. Every other word is hun now and she wouldn't say that before.

So is this it now? Shes like a totally different person!!

OP posts:
Chloe84 · 17/02/2017 10:28

keysersophie rumbled Grin

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/02/2017 10:38

I have two of these on my Facebook. I have also been added twice and removed myself twice from another.

They appear to hold weird raffles where friends are asked to add their friends to the group and fir every five they get a number.

Somehow despite removing myself from all the groups I still end up with a ton of videos playing on my time lines of make up tutorials etc

5 drops is far too much foundation ffs. You look ridiculous. Which is fine as you are free to wear whatever you like of course.
However the look is just not what you are claiming it is.

toomuchtimereadingthreads2016 · 17/02/2017 11:59

The Y women are totally insane. They were starting up in the country where I live and it sounded tempting... These type of companies aren't well established here yet so thought it might be easy to sell. They put me in touch with a mentor to explain what things it would involve.

She was insane. Kept talking about how I was her new sister, commenting on photos of my DD, trying to add anyone who commented on my photos to her FB friends list... But couldn't answer a single question I asked about legalities, tax etc. Freaked the hell out of me, so I blocked her. This all happened in less than two days! She was #blessed too...

NotYoda · 17/02/2017 12:04

Thanks TheHodgeoftheHedge

I did not know what MLM was (not on FB or twitter or anything). Love John Oliver too

NotYoda · 17/02/2017 12:21

I was always taught that if something seems too good to be true, (especially if it involves getting money for doing little) then it is.

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/02/2017 13:34

What I find most bizarre is that when you are friends with people who you know are clued up and switched on and would never fall for this, they still like the posts and join in these raffles etc

I thought I was the thick one amongst these people yet I spotted the recruitment happening right in front of our eyes on face book. I did message to warn the person however I was ignored. I removed myself from the group but am still friends with the person.

Why do friends who you know must know better keep commenting and buying from them and indulging this crap? Surely they'd be better off being more honest ?

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/02/2017 13:43

And why when MN is full of literally millions of people and dozens of threads on MLMS is there not one warning from anybody on all the face book posts.

You guys are just regular people right? I probably know some of you. Where are you all on these posts? Grin

Have you been blocked? Is it a waste of time trying to say anything?

Why, out of millions of people all over the world who know what shit it all is, is there not one comment under the face book posts that says "get out now"

Arcadia · 17/02/2017 17:11

Brilliant film, thank you.

fruityb · 19/02/2017 08:08

I've just seen the word "validate" on a bots page. I'm done. Empowering is one thing but validating?? Sweet shit.

ememem84 · 19/02/2017 08:35

Mine approached me and asked if I'd like to join her team. I could apparently earn more than I do in my 9-5 by working from home.

I asked how much she earned a month. Apparently I could earn up to £275 a week. Which is less than I bring home a month.

I asked about benefits (medical pension etc). Nope none of those (surprise suprise). I said no thanks because I get more out of my job.

Then I got a lecture about how I needed to think about my family and how I was just working for a faceless corporation (nope not true independent company I work for...) pointed out that she was working for the independent company and earning probably less than minimum wage.

She wasn't happy.... I am jealous of her apparently.

fruityb · 19/02/2017 08:46

We're all just jealous. I looked at all the sales my bot was making and about 80% of them were from other younique sellers. It's utter bullshit. I asked similar questions - pension, holiday, salary lol.

She does it to spend more time with her kids - even though she hasn't worked since having her kids!! She's ALWAYS spent time with them.

i look forward to seeing how she expands her business as she keeps saying... it's fascinating as well as worrying. They've all been sucked down a hole - I don't need to promote my job endlessly on Facebook. My other half works in sales and doesn't use Facebook!

mya83 · 19/02/2017 09:28

I have a few on my FB too. The JP bot has been banging on about these bloody capsules that transform your health and make you lose weight for about a year now. Keeps posting these videos of herself saying how amazing she feels and how her skin, hair, health has improved so much etc. Let's just say she's not the best advert for this! She looks the same as she always did, tired and overweight. Not that there's anything wrong with that but there is if you're trying to claim these magic pills have transformed you!

FuckingSausageFingers · 19/02/2017 09:41

I had this with a friend of mine. I ignored all the facebook crap to begin with and it was fairly manageable. Then she tried to force fucking bee pollen onto me. A group of us had met for brunch - so lunch an hour earlier than usual - in a pub beer garden. She sits down and starts handing out these bee pollen tablets to us all "for energy" (because it was morning and not lunch time I assume?) Anyway I was pregnant so had what I thought was a perfectly valid reason to decline. Not that you should need one, but you know how they are. Anyway, she starts whittering on about them being the ideal remedy for hayfever when you're pregnant and not allowed anything else. We had a bit of a stand off where I pointed out that if I wasn't allowed industry-regulated piriton, I wasn't prepared to take my chances with her stupid bee pollen. Oh and I have never suffered from hayfever.

I carried on ignoring her stupid social media stuff after that thinking we would just quietly agree to disagree but she kept on texting me and pestering me asking me to share all her posts and "support her business" (and posted a load of PA memes about knowing who your friends are because they support/encourage your small business instead of lining the pockets of large multinationals, etc) and I ended up sending her a pyramid / MLM video I'd seen posted on one of these threads to explain my viewpoint and told her while I wish her all the best, I won't be a part of it. She came back all defensive saying thanks for the concern but it wasn't like that blah blah blah... but thankfully backed the fuck off.

I'm not on fb anymore (partly due to too many wankers like her being on it) and I definitely haven't seen her as much since. She posts photos of her todder drinking aloe vera gel to promote how amazing it is, which I think is fucking stupid. And now she is pregnant again so I'm assuming she will have started with all the "ooooh this is making me feel so energetic during my pregnancy" bollocks and I would rather not know about that because it'll just give me the rage Angry

OP, as the saying goes, you can't argue with stupid. So don't try. Let the friendship to cool off for a bit. Better for it to cool slightly now and be salvageable when she comes to her senses than to actively argue with her and fall out and never speak again. Unfollow her on fb and ignore any references to it when you text/speak/see each other.

FuckingSausageFingers · 19/02/2017 09:41

Sorry, that was longer than expected... Blush

Willow2016 · 19/02/2017 13:31

These idiots piss me off no end, they have NO medical experience and are hawking potentially lethal crap that has practically NO scientificly proven benefits but can be very harmful to many people.

Patients with allergies to pollen or bee stings may be at particular risk. Studies that have done skin prick tests on patients found a strong association between being allergic to bee pollen and having allergies to various grasses and other airborne allergens. But there have also been cases reported in people with no history of allergies.

Another problem is that aside from causing a serious reaction, using these supplements may set off an allergy to pollen and bee stings that a person may have never previously experienced, making him or her susceptible of anaphylaxis in the future. That may not be a risk people want to take.

People have ended up in hospital after taking these crap tablets and they areromoting them as healthy! They never have the gumption to ask if you have allergies, in particular grass, pollen, bee stings etc before they offer it as hey, if you are allergic to these then you will be allergic to the 'bee pollen tablets' doh!

THere should be a law against making medical claims with NO scientific research behind it (quite the opposite infact, proper medical studies proved their claims to be rubbish) by any idiot who can buy them to hawk to unsuspecting people.

Sorry for the rant but I know people with severe bee sting allergies/ hay fever and the thought that someone would try to persuade them to take something that could potentially kill them makes me mad!

ExpectoPatronummmm · 19/02/2017 13:57

Haha this is my (now ex) friend down to a tea.
We used to be so close until she became completely obsessed to get to 'pink status' and went mental when I refused to buy a shitty £10 lip gloss. Told me I was unsupportive and jealous of her etc. Despite the fact I did so much for her over the years.

KatharinaRosalie · 19/02/2017 16:22

A bot has just posted a photo of her in that amazing makeup. She has photoshopped it so much that she literally does not have a nose any more.

Birdsbeesandtrees · 19/02/2017 16:26

I know 2 people on fb that do/did this.

One has gone suspiciously quiet on it Grin

And the other has just started and genuinely seems to believe she is starting her own business and she will have money rolling in in no time. Posts the usual excited bollocks about winning, success and pictures of sunsets.

getoffthatsofa · 19/02/2017 16:59

Is there a makeup one that's not so well known?

An acquaintance of mine kept asking me if I wanted to hold a 'Pamper Party'.
She's a nice , sweet person and seemed to understand it's not my thing but I've noticed she's gone from bare faced to the full works in recent weeks.

The trouble is I know she's not well off, she has 2 preschoolers so can't work full time for a while and I have a sinking feeling that someone's taking advantage of her.

fruityb · 19/02/2017 17:26

Younique stuff is incredibly expensive - more than MAC or Urban Decay! And it's not really any better if at all.

acatcalledjohn · 19/02/2017 17:32

Anyway I was pregnant so had what I thought was a perfectly valid reason to decline. Not that you should need one, but you know how they are. Anyway, she starts whittering on about them being the ideal remedy for hayfever when you're pregnant and not allowed anything else.

She could have caused you some real issues had you fallen for it.

Bee pollen and pregnancy

FuckingSausageFingers · 20/02/2017 14:37

acatcalledjohn My biggest worry now is the damage she could do to her own baby now she's pregnant and is fully swept up in believing all this shit. She advised me that the bee pollen was "completely safe" to take during pregnancy. A dangerous claim from anyone other than a qualified medical professional. I told her at the time I wasn't prepared to take anything unless I'd been given the ok by a doctor/midwife, but clearly if she believes she is right, she can take whatever the fuck she wants regardless of what it could do to her unborn child. I mean, if you don't take risks with things like alcohol or regulated medication, why the hell would you gamble with something like that? In my mind, you might as well pop an E because you have no idea what's in that tablet or what it might do to your baby. Might sound extreme, but it's how I felt when she was in my face pestering me to take it.

Sillysausage123 · 20/02/2017 14:52

They know it's shit but they won't admit it, they want to suck others in too.
They always post on Facebook 'do you want to earn a million pounds for very little work? Inbox me'
They never post how the scheme works on a post they want people to private message them do they don't get slated on their post about how ridiculous it is.

Willow2016 · 20/02/2017 15:51

Fucking:
I wopuld post her a link about the dangers of Bee Pollen in pregnancy then leave her to it.

Nothing else you can do if she is that blinded by her own sales spiel.

acatcalledjohn · 20/02/2017 19:04

Also, this article shines an interesting light on supplements following a long term and large US study into them.