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This thread will see you in court.Again. Trump watch

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amispartacus · 12/02/2017 09:00

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2850730-She-was-told-to-be-quiet-Nevertheless-she-persisted-Trump-cont

I wonder when this thread will fill up.

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amispartacus · 12/02/2017 21:37

Anyone watching #BAFTAS...

Interesting speeches

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GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 21:40

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3 weeks in and we're already on the "evil vizier" narrative—aka "the Czar wants what's best for the people, but his advisors undermine him"

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 21:43

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Going on @AriMelber at 6 pm ET to let America know that #CongressCanRequest a review of @POTUS taxes for conflicts of interest. Tune in!

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 21:44

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This is what incompetence looks like. This is why we must #resist and #persist

www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkannavar-detained-cbp-phone-search-trump-travel-ban

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 21:46

From the article:

Seemingly, Bikkannavar’s reentry into the country should not have raised any flags. Not only is he a natural-born US citizen, but he’s also enrolled in Global Entry — a program through CBP that allows individuals who have undergone background checks to have expedited entry into the country. He hasn’t visited the countries listed in the immigration ban and he has worked at JPL — a major center at a US federal agency — for 10 years. There, he works on “wavefront sensing and control,” a type of optics technology that will be used on the upcoming James Webb Space Telescope.

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 21:52

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#BREAKING North Korea says ballistic missile test a success: media

amispartacus · 12/02/2017 21:54

North Korea says ballistic missile test a success: media

They would do. Grin

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GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 21:58

I have to admit, I'm rather nervous about tomorrow. I expect to see him signing another travel ban EO bright and early (so about 1pm or so here in the UK). I expect it to be worse than the last one, and harder to get around. Although I am wondering if he just puts out another one very similar to the first one, will that create problems in court as it will look like he's attempting to get one over on the court?

cozietoesie · 12/02/2017 22:03

Difficult one. It might - but on the other hand, he's still seemingly paying lip service to the judiciary and they might be influenced by that.

Let's see.

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 22:24

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Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!

amispartacus · 12/02/2017 22:25

WOW!

Just watch the video - if you are teaching media skills and avoidance, this is the guy to watch:

www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/12/mixed-into-his-falsehoods-on-voter-fraud-stephen-miller-did-hit-on-one-truth/?utm_term=.1add1e7db672

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/02/2017 22:26

Trump's tweets just make me want to tweet back "oh do fuck off!" I can't even bring myself to add the 'dear.'

CaveMum · 12/02/2017 22:26

God he really needs to feel "loved" doesn't he?

amispartacus · 12/02/2017 22:26

Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest

Grin

So he expects people to report that people are supporting him with massive crowds.

What is he, North Korea?

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SuburbanRhonda · 12/02/2017 22:26

Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters?

He really does think he's still on the campaign trail doesn't he? I'm blushing with embarrassment on his behalf.

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 22:26

Mort Grin You can just see him stamping his foot like a petulant child, can't you?

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 22:29

Since they closed the roads in the area, which the residents were complaining to the news media about as it detracted from their businesses, I hardly think the roads are lined with people.

amispartacus · 12/02/2017 22:34

In North Korea, their glorious leader receives glorious praise in the press.

Does he not understand how he comes across?

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cozietoesie · 12/02/2017 22:36

I recall DBro telling me about a certain Mid-East ruler he'd encountered - after a fashion - who liked to have his route (between palaces - about 20 miles) lined by soldiers. Sadly, he didn't have enough spare to do the job properly so as the Motorcade went slowly past, the ones who'd been passed would quickly bus-up and race ahead to join the 'end of the line'. And Repeat - until the other palace was reached.

That story is of course apocryphal. Wink

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 12/02/2017 22:41

Yes, it's so cringey, reminds me of the SNL sketch where Mccarthy says 'everyone was smiling...all the men had erections and all the women were ovulating'

amispartacus · 12/02/2017 22:45

I wonder what it is like being married to him - I suspect he is very thin skinned and takes criticism badly. It also seems he needs his ego boosting and is emotionally unaware of how comes across to others. I wonder how good he is at putting others first in a relationship? Being equal? Accommodating needs?

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FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 12/02/2017 22:52

I bet he looks at himself in the mirror whilst coming

amispartacus · 12/02/2017 22:53

Interesting piece in US soldiers and what they are fighting for:

www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/opinion/sunday/what-were-fighting-for.html?hpw&rref=sunday-review&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0

Part of that:

He doesn’t even have the consolation of feeling that he saved lives. Sure, they found a car bomb factory, but Abu Ghraib was a turning point. In 2003, thousands of Iraqi soldiers had begun surrendering to the United States, confident they’d be treated well. That’s thousands of soldiers we didn’t have to fight to the death because of the moral reputation of our country.

Abu Ghraib changed things. Insurgent attacks increased, support for the sectarian leader Moktada al-Sadr surged, and 92 percent of Iraqis claimed they saw coalition forces as occupiers rather than liberators or peacekeepers.

WikiLeaks later released a United States assessment that detainee mistreatment at Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo was “the single most important motivating factor” convincing foreign jihadists to wage war, and Gen. Stanley McChrystal said, “In my experience, we found that nearly every first-time jihadist claimed Abu Ghraib had first jolted him to action.” Our moral reputation had started killing American soldiers.

This is so relevant to terrorism today - and the risk the USA faces - as well as the UK

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AcrossthePond55 · 12/02/2017 22:54

"Big crowds", eh? Then why doesn't he tweet us a few pictures?

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/02/2017 22:56

I bet he looks at himself in the mirror whilst coming

Eeeeew! brain bleach, stat!

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