to say something to childminder?

[kel1234]

My lo goes to a childminder. Today he had on a vest, long sleeved t shirt, jeans and a body warmer, and obviously socks and shoes. He also had his coat, hat, scarf and mittens.
The childminder lives literally 5 minutes away from us, and I know that on Fridays she takes them out in the car, so I wasn't too concerned about him not having a long sleeved jumper or jacket on under his coat today (he was perfectly warm enough in the pram with his blanket over him, but I made sure he wasn't too hot with both on). However she sent me a few pictures after i got home of him today. Fine. This afternoon she had them out in her double pram, and my lo only had his t shirt and body warmer on, with his hat. No coat, no scarf, no mittens. I was quite surprised by this as he had his coat there, and the boy next to him had his coat on, so it wasn't she simply didn't feel the need for coats or anything.
WIBU to say something to her next week? She's lovely and I've never had any problems before. My lo looks happy in the picture, but I can't help but think he would have been cold without a coat it was about 3 degrees here today. And they were defiantly outside as there is trees in the background.

I think you might be onto something. However its hard to judge 'genuinely caring' on an inspection.

No option really but to play by the rules for ofsted as well as being genuinely caring for your conscience.

Leelo it's not hard to put on a coat for every child on a cold day . I don't think she should buy a body warmer it wouldn't be warm enough for yesterday.

Was it sunny in the photo? I was out and about yesterday and at one point it was actually very warm with the sun on us but then freezing later on.
I often take my 12 month out in vest, long sleeve and bodywatmer if it's a bit warmer (sunny autumn) but not when it gets really cold (it was snowing here yesterday so it was big coats for us!)

YANBU.

Argh, just lost a message.

Audrey - i didn't saying was hard to put a coat on children on a cold day - and of course I do so. What I said was it is time consuming to prepare several little ones for an outing, thus I put on what their parents have brought them in, assuming that that is what they want them to wear.

assuming that that is what they want them to wear

I agree on this. It's rock an a hard place situation. For every parent 'concerned about chills' with this attire for the apparent weather, there would be another worried her wrapped up child wasn't 'getting the goodness' of the fresh air around them. A lot of time mirroring the parent's choices is the best course of action.

It is so much more of a trust issue than a coat issue. Or maybe a fairness issue. Op said she would have been happier if other child was visibly in similar attire.

I personally wouldn't look after a child whose mother didn't trust me. I only have 6 slots so they can easily be filled by people who trust my judgement.

Anotherdayanotherscreenname I think you are right - and likewise I would not send my children to someone I didn't trust sufficiently to make reasonable judgements about their care.

Absolutely crumbs. As I said in my post at 0653, if she does not trust her she shouldn't employ her services. It is unfair on everyone involved: op, dc and, certainly from my perspective, the cm as well.

Today he had on a vest, long sleeved t shirt, jeans and a body warmer, and obviously socks and shoes He also had his coat, hat, scarf and mittens

Can you clarify OP?

Your post makes it sound like he was wearing everything EXCEPT the coat, hat, scarf and mittens when you dropped him.

OP when you say a body warmer do you mean this sort of thing?

www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/navy-quilted-vest-b8764.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAifvEBRCVx5up6Ojgr5oBEiQALHw1TpJN9dhuQDuNDaja-MlZ7fkrph8qgqJOB76C3_vYF8UaAnAY8P8HAQ

Because even without arms he would have been very warm

Leelo. if I was running in a child from a car I wouldn't put coat on probably. If I was taking a child in a pushchair sat and not moving and it was freezing yesterday I would put a coat on.

Audreyhelp I've interpreted the original post differently. I thought op had walked with dc the 5 minute journey in the pram.

Don't send so many clothes if the options the childminder chooses upset you, just send the coat and leave the body warmer at home next time. No need to say anything and no confusion.

Audreyhe - yes, but the op said she brought him in the buggy - so presumably had been outside. If he'd been in the car then he wouldn't have had a thick gillet or coat on obviously as it's not safe with car seat straps - as I assume you know?

Just send in extra layers and point it out as you attend next week.

I agree with ceecee what was the point in sending him in with a bodywarmer? Just send him in a coat and he will go out in a coat. Jobs a good'un, no passive aggressive remarks or unsubtle hints.

(Not intended to be rude tbh)

What's wrong with children feeling the weather - assuming not distressed? Child would be wrapped like a stuffed turkey if it had coat, gilet, jumper, t shirt, vest etc. A nice blast of fresh air is good for them!

Crumbs1 I totally agree with that but I realise it might be clouding my judgement slightly on this.

I often walk places with my children (bio and minded) in this weather, even though I have a 7 seater!

the precious little snowflakes haven't melted yet
that actually was rude, tbh

A childminder is business, and like in any relationship (business and personal) you need to be on the same page on certain things. And like any relationship there has to be trust at the foundation. It is apparent op don't trust this woman. That doesn't mean she isn't trustworthy, but it does mean the relationship will become shaky.