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She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...

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amispartacus · 09/02/2017 22:24

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2849038-The-most-unreported-thread-ever-Trump-thread-9

As promised

She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...
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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:32

Trump and Bannon are likely livid, as this brings Russia right front and centre again in a huge huge way. And will dirty them somewhat.

The Muslim ban managed to get the public talking about something other than the Russia ties. This refocuses everything. Expect to see something godawful trotted out (their re-done EO on ban?) to take the attention away from Russia again.

cozietoesie · 10/02/2017 19:33

You're still 'old-thinking', Ginger. (I do it myself. Grin) If in trouble, why not ignore or deny it? Unless it's convenient to lose someone of course - and they're not too powerful. Wink

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:34

I think they'll make the mistake of dumping Flynn.. and he'll retaliate. Fingers crossed. Grin

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:34

or he'll talk to stay alive.... people who piss off Russia tend to get poisoned or show up dead, do they not?

lingle · 10/02/2017 19:35

Channel 4 are now mightily pissed off. Worth watching the repeat at 8pm.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:35

CNN Politics ‏*@CNNPolitics* 2m2 minutes ago
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Mexico warns citizens living in the US to "take precautions" after the deportation of an undocumented mother cnn.it/2kcnFjJ

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:37

Now this is interesting.......

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 1m1 minute ago
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Some people think this is the real reason the Trumps are suing the Mail

www.indy100.com/article/donald-melania-trump-defamation-lawsuit-mail-online-escort-charles-harder-gawker-7572871

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:37

Coulter's a twat, anyway.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:39

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 10s11 seconds ago
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Trump didn't put his earpiece in when Prime Minister Abe spoke at their press conference ind.pn/2kuM9Rg

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:40

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 29s29 seconds ago
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Police 'likely to recommend' indictment of Netanyahu on corruption charges ind.pn/2kuz5vg

cozietoesie · 10/02/2017 19:42

Ouch.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:44

The New York Times ‏*@nytimes* 25s26 seconds ago
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A resignation gives President Trump the chance to reshape the Federal Reserve — like erasing financial regulations

www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/politics/daniel-tarullo-federal-reserve.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:45

AFP news agency ‏*@AFP* 6s7 seconds ago
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#BREAKING US, Japan say defense pact covers disputed Senkaku islands

lljkk · 10/02/2017 19:46

RoguePotus says @AngryWHStaffer is a fake WH staffer. I think I am loyal to Rogue...

The immigration ban ExO reworked so it might succeed... From what I understand about the legal judgements, it needs to explicitly say that legal US residents/visa holders are exempt. But mostly it needs to be evidenced why the threat is real from the stated countries (not just analysis which is merely some kind of expert opinion & all they have, instead need to state some "facts" ... So can't just redraft the wording, but need to cite some evidence and produce a clearer plan for what to do so that it is only temporary.

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 10/02/2017 19:46

Thanks lingle will be watching C4, tuned in but missed it so glad there's a repeat

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:47

I've sen that lljkk. Frankly the idea that Bannon is cursing the judges re the ban doesn't take someone being undercover. That's pretty much a given.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:48

sen = seen

lingle · 10/02/2017 19:48

Ginger, I had never seen/heard of her before.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:49

lingle she thrives on being a bit of a twat. And flicking her hair around. Annoying.

lingle · 10/02/2017 19:50

It's like a Shakespeare play. Macbeth or Richard III.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 19:52

Jim Roberts ‏*@nycjim* 1m1 minute ago
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If Gen. Flynn misled Mike Pence on conversations with Russians, how can Trump NOT fire him? www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/02/10/daily-202-did-mike-pence-get-burned-by-michael-flynn/589d13ffe9b69b1406c75ca2/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_usrussia-%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.92352a016123

I suspect this is going to be the crux of it. It can only be one of two stories:

  1. Both Flynn and Pence knew.

or

  1. Flynn lied to Pence, so Pence didn't know the truth.

Either way, it's already fact that Flynn did this. They now have to choose whether or not to save Pence. If the VP can't serve, does it go to Ryan? Or can Trump choose a VP? VP Bannon? Okay, must go look that up, as I can't remember the details on how it works. I'm pretty sure the P can choose a VP. if so, Bannon will be pushing for Pence to go too, so he can step in. Thoughts?

lingle · 10/02/2017 19:56

She made Kellyanne seem really normal in comparison.

amispartacus · 10/02/2017 19:57

She made Kellyanne seem really normal in comparison

We give them Hopkins and Morgan in return for their news shows Grin

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Neverthelessshepersisted · 10/02/2017 20:04

Just got semi-outed on another thread. Couldn't resist this name.

amispartacus · 10/02/2017 20:07

Interesting idea

Chaffetz faced angry crowds at a town hall meeting last night, and there was one particular exchange that went viral.

A schoolteacher stood up and demanded to know: “Where is your line in the sand?” Chaffetz tried arguing that Trump is legally exempt from conflicts of interest, which is just misdirection, but if more conflicts and corruption emerge, this posture may not be sustainable forever.

Democrats are largely powerless in Washington, but one thing they can do is keep pressuring Republicans to hold Trump accountable — they can keep asking that schoolteacher’s question. People are very politically engaged right now, and they will be watching the GOP Congress closely.

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/02/10/a-blueprint-for-resistance-to-trump-has-emerged-heres-what-it-looks-like

'Where is your line in the sand?" That's a question I've asked Trump fans online...

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