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She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...

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amispartacus · 09/02/2017 22:24

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2849038-The-most-unreported-thread-ever-Trump-thread-9

As promised

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amispartacus · 10/02/2017 17:41

e wouldn't buy her way into the Cabinet for a job she is grossly unqualified to do

I think it's better for people to be shown to be incompetent. Of course some may argue that by preventing access, she is not damaging the children. It's much more fun for a teacher to ask hard questions of her and watch her response.

Such as: should all pupils achieve above average scores for their age?

What assessment tools do you approve of?
In a skills based economy, what value do you place on history?

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:42

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:43

They asked her loads of actually quite easy questions during her interview stage at Congress. She couldn't answer most of them and what she did answer was appalling. GOP voted her through anyway. Hmm

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:44

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:47

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amispartacus · 10/02/2017 17:47

I've just seen the protestors !!

I am somewhat surprised a Cabinet Secretary did not have security to get through the arm of that guy.

It's not exactly a big protest. I was expecting a lot more than that. No doubt Trump will tweet.

Maybe they weren't real protestors. Maybe it was a set up....[cynic]

edition.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/devos-protest-at-washington-school/index.html?sr=twCNN021017devos-protest-at-washington-school0528PMVODtopLink&linkId=34366146

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LatinForTelly · 10/02/2017 17:48

him doing that weird "pull people off their feet" handshake he seems to do to everyone

Yes, what is that? Absolutely bizarre. I saw it on the news last night with Gorsuch. He is a schoolyard bully.

Also, I know this is lightweight flimflammery, but when watching videos of Sean Spicer on youtube, one came up about Donald and Melania's body language - as if you'd need an 'expert' to point it out to you - but I watched it anyway, and he really is a pig: How he marched up the steps to meet the Obamas and left Melania trailing in his wake like a spare part.

Thank-you for these threads by the way. I am feeling quite well-informed cough, though not getting much done, cough.

Although I thought it would be bad, I am quite astounded at how blind he is to his own incompetence (quite apart from the bigotry and hatred). He is simply mad, isn't he?

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:48

Anyone else tired of hearing the phrase FAKE NEWS???

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:50

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Back to the drawing board: Trump is reportedly redrafting immigration order in a way that courts would uphold.

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:51

Note the end of this paragraph from the article:

Trump's legal team still believes it will be eventually proven correct on the merits of the current executive order, the official said. And they are looking into several options, including continuing the court battle as well as signing a new immigration EO "very soon."

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:53

.@KellyannePolls and @HillaryClinton have become embroiled in a Twitter spat over @realDonaldTrump's travel ban

(headline is a bit misleading, as it seems Hillary tweeted and Patriot Barbie jumped on it - she seems to enjoy trying to lord her position over people - but I suspect she may have bitten off more than she can chew with Hillary Clinton. Grin)

news.sky.com/story/hillary-clinton-and-kellyanne-conway-in-twitter-spat-over-travel-ban-10762352?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

SanFranBear · 10/02/2017 17:54

I'm with Ginger - DeVos is woefully underqualified for her job which she only got because of her wealth (I genuinely don't know how else she got in that position) and I think the sooner she is shown to be incompetent - and I think complete distrust and open dissension from those you 'serve' shows incompetence - the better.

I refuse to jump on the 'let's give her a chance' bandwagon - people said that about Trump and he shows no sign of actually listening to his people.

I am never sure what I think of Billy Bragg but I think his final point here is worth noting. He's discussing the UKs pullback on child refugees but the question about who do we want to be, needs some thought by those in power right now - here and in the US.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38929867

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:55

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:56

DeVos had a chance in her home state and has massacred the education system there. The state reps there had thousands and thousands of calls to tell them NOT to vote her in.....

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 17:58

Another dreadful candidate....

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amispartacus · 10/02/2017 17:59

I refuse to jump on the 'let's give her a chance' bandwagon - people said that about Trump and he shows no sign of actually listening to his people

That's NOT what I am saying - I am saying I think it's wrong to BLOCK people who are in charge of a public service to visit the services they are in charge of. Don't invite them. Don't speak to them - but BLOCKING someone just adds fuel to the fire and invites outrage.

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 18:00

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#BREAKING Watch live: President Trump and Japanese PM Abe hold joint news conference

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originalbiglymavis · 10/02/2017 18:03

Anyone else hope he does a prince Phillip and make some eye jokes, fart loudly and then ask who ordered the crispy duck (yes I know that's chinese but I don't expect he can tell the difference)?

originalbiglymavis · 10/02/2017 18:04

I've just realised that I see him as a version of that late comedian whose name escapes me (the 'no respect' guy).

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 18:05

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SanFranBear · 10/02/2017 18:06

I take your point Ami - I am probably blinded by my utter disgust that she was confirmed. I guess that ole Emperor will use this somehow to continue his 'they're all out to get me' rhetoric instead of actually taking time to consider why people are reacting that way.

I will say though, she could have persevered and forced the issue - there was hardly a mass of people. . Unless several hundred fled when the photographers turned up Smile

amispartacus · 10/02/2017 18:07

I will say though, she could have persevered and forced the issue

Well, one guy did put his arm out. I'm surprised she wasn't carrying a gun to ward of grizzlies...

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 18:08

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GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 18:08

Mavis Rodney Dangerfield.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 18:09

Well, one guy did put his arm out. I'm surprised she wasn't carrying a gun to ward of grizzlies...

Grin