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To be so badly affected by Trump

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moonriverandyou · 04/02/2017 19:06

I know he worries a lot of people but most people i presume manage to shove him out of their minds, at least some of the time. But i can't. Since he became president i feel like i'm living in a bad dream. I have a permanent feeling of unease. doom I feel like i can't plan for he future, is he going to get us all blown up? Will we be here this time next year? Please calm me down good mumsnetters if you can.

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AngryPrincess · 04/02/2017 20:27

No, you are not being unreasonable. I am also deeply worried. Having said that, talking to someone about it should help. A GP or counsellor. It might be a good idea to do something about it too. Attend a protest, (you will meet lots of like minded people), or volunteer to help refugees.

mathanxiety · 04/02/2017 20:30

My mum called last week, up to ninety about my Irish passport and how I needed to renew it. She did not realise I have had a green card since the late 80s. However, I am still going to renew my passport.

Along with pretty much every American I know in a very blue area of the very blue state where I live, I am consoling myself with the hope that the presidency of Donald J. Trump will result in curtains for the GOP and everything it stands for. Roll on the midterms in 2018.

Foldedtshirt · 04/02/2017 20:39

There's some good advice on this thread- about mindfulness, avoiding news and coping with worries- thank you for the worry tree AnxiousMunchkin, I've saved a copy of that to study and use at work (therapeutic coaching)
I know that tat are not allowed but I'm going to start one on the end of days theory. Not that I subscribe to it, but I'm interested because I think that is the motivation of lots of his supporters because it wouldn't be helpful to discuss it here.
and Christianity

At the end of the day he's not come into presidency to start ww3.

Foldedtshirt · 04/02/2017 20:40

^^ c&p error: at the end of the day... is what prompted me to start the other thread.

RortyCrankle · 04/02/2017 20:42

I don't feel affected by him at all probably because I completely ignore hysterical reaction to him. Can you tell us one thing that has changed in your personal life because of him being POTUS? Are you poorer? a muslim refused entry into the US? do your children still go to school? Your husband still go to work? can you still communicate with friends and family, go out shopping, hairdressers etc? If none of these things have changed and you are still feeling this way I think you need to see a doctor. That is a genuine suggestion which may help you feel better.

Actually, I have a friend in Australia who I speak with on Skype - he is very computer savvy and I don't know if you have seen photographs of Trump holding up a paper with one of his latest laws, but he sent me one which he had altered to read: 'A 75 foot wall is to be built around [ my name ]'s House. Construction to begin this year' signed at the bottom by Trump. Should I be worried? Grin

TheDowagerCuntess · 04/02/2017 20:53

The 'he hasn't come into the job to start WWIII' comments aren't all that helpful to those who have a vague understanding of historical events.

WWI and II weren't started by a single person or a single event; they were the result of a culmination of a series of inter-related events.

The likes of Brexit, the rise of the far right, the weakening of the EU, and a nationalist candidate being voted into the US are all very reminiscent...

Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:09

rorty

Patronising comment. You ignore hysterical reaction to him, good for you. However, we don't live in a bubble. The personal is political and vice versa. Or are you completely immune? Define hysterical. You might think that you're coming from some completely objective viewpoint but you're not. We're all shaped by cultural context. So you viewpoint is just as subjective as mine.

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moonriverandyou · 04/02/2017 21:09

The comments like "he hasn't come into office to start ww3" are very helpful to me though dowager. It's exactly comments like that that calm me down.

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Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:09

'Your' not 'you'

AnxiousMunchkin · 04/02/2017 21:12

I'm sure Gavrilo Princip didn't shoot the Archduke planning to start WW1, but that's what happened

This is the kind of thinking that starts me bulk ordering tins of chickpeas.

toomanyholidays · 04/02/2017 21:21

Firstly, I think the people that claim worrying about Trump is 'hysterical' are the ones who aren't quite sane.

I'm sure the people stranded, separated from family, maybe even their children because of the immigrarion ban - aren't 'hysterical' for being deeply upset and angry.

Worry about Trump is natural and humane. I feel those that can just switch off, like it's nothing to do with them, must be quite detached and yes deluded.

So OP you care and that's great. But take measures to protect your well-being. I don't believe WW3 is imminent - too much to lose - too many sane, clever people who will oppose him.

Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:23

Expell
I agree with you. Comments such as 'get a grip' are not benign. There's an underlying condescension there. Like accusing people of having 'hysterical' reactions. What century are we in? Men were saying that to women in the 19th century. I feel that 'get a grip', which IMO is very dismissive is the modern day equivalent.

Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:24

Also what has personally helped...can't guarantee this is for everyone is listening to what Bernie Sanders has to say. Lots of his speeches on YouTube.

mathanxiety · 04/02/2017 21:26

Can you tell us one thing that has changed in your personal life because of him being POTUS?

Well, there's the little matter of my health insurance, and the neighbour two doors down whose sister got stuck in Athens thanks to that EO.

And I suspect that citizens of the UK should be concerned about the NHS being bought by some US healthcare conglomerate, and the subsequent introduction of American style excellent healthcare for those who can afford it.

But apart from that, not a lot Hmm

SpongebobRoundPants · 04/02/2017 21:26

GP- how can I help you?

OP- I'm worried about trump being president

HmmHmmHmm

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moonriverandyou · 04/02/2017 21:28

Would it be reassuring for me Deadsouls?

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toomanyholidays · 04/02/2017 21:33

Never, to my dying day, will I believe media coverage and reaction to Trump is hysterical.

Any intelligent, humane person can see that, at the very least, he poses a constitutional threat to America. I lost a huge amount of respect for a family member, who I'd always seen as a strong, intelligent woman, for referring to Trump Hysteria on Facebook.

It's condescending and factually inaccurate. How can it be an overreaction to discuss and worry about a would be Autocrat at the helm of the most powerful nation on earth?

It's such people who, I wonder, would have appeased and turned a blind eye to Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini? Normalising their abhorrent, hateful actions. Sneering at people who questioned and showed concern.

However OP, there are ways to reduce your anxiety.

Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:34

moonriver
I don't know, you have to find your own way through this chaos. I listen to Bernie Sanders because to me he's a sane, compassionate voice of reason. His values resonate with my own. But it might not with you.

Might it be best for you to take a step back and not listen to/or read news for a while? Just stay grounded in your own life?

KathArtic · 04/02/2017 21:35

" Oh please get a grip. You are being taken for a ride by the media and MumsNet "

Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:37

spongebob I'm willing to bet the OP wouldn't be the only one being triggered into anxiety by what's going on.

celeste84 · 04/02/2017 21:44

Why are people feeling so threatened by Trump but not so much Kim Jong-Un?

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moonriverandyou · 04/02/2017 21:46

Well he frightens me too celeste

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Deadsouls · 04/02/2017 21:47

celeste
Why do you make that assumption?

middlings · 04/02/2017 21:53

its shit isnt it. Between trump and brexit, I feel like the world I knew and trusted has gone. Youre not the only one OP x

^^this

Branleuse I have a gorgeous picture of my family that was taken on June 23rd last year. I can barely look at it. It will always be the last day the world felt good. I know it wasn't...that there are still good times ahead, and that I was living in an naive bubble to an extent but something does feel irrevocably changed.

I'm terrified for the world my DC are growing up in.

deblet · 04/02/2017 22:02

Just remind yourself not my circus not my monkey and repeat.It's not worth worrying about OP you do not have the means to change anything. Just enjoy everyday with your loved ones that is all any of us should do.