Dogs in cafes/pubs

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I was in a cafe for lunch today and the people next to me had large dog which tried sniffing my food when it was served to the table. The owners apologised but then didn't make any extraordinary effort to make sure it didn't happen again.

I don't mind dogs but DH doesn't like them. Why must people bring their dogs into these places and then not be sensitive as to whether the people around them feel uncomfortable?

Personally I think there should be laws about this.
AIBU?

I love a nice dog friendly pub

Simple it's a dog friendly cafe. If you don't like dogs don't go to a dog friendly place. There are far more cafes out there that don't allow dogs than do so it should be easy to find one that accommodates your DH's dog free needs.

It isn't ridiculous to compare them to babies or toddlers - the point is what annoys one person doesn't annoy another. It's like walking into a soft play area and complaining a child is there looking at you.

I'd like to know where you get these dogs from that lay at their owners feet, my little treasure gets left at home because in all honestly it would have eaten the dinner not just sniffed at it.

I agree though children and adults are scared of dogs for all different reasons.

Did you try asking the owners if they could move the dog away from you? I'd have been glad to move mine if you felt she was making you uncomfortable. Or ask to be seated somewhere away from it?

I tend to choose places where there will be dogs! Wouldn't bother me in any way if a dog sniffed my food. YABU, go somewhere else.

We go to pubs all the time and only once has someone been unhappy about my dogs.

They are well behaved and on the lead.
Very few of the children in the pub are as well behaved as them.

There is a lovely cafe in my town which welcomes dogs they even get a free sausage.
I don't have a dog but I like seeing other people's.
All the dogs I've seen in there have been very well behaved.

Oh, and the children ar never on the lead, which is a shame.

I had brekkie in my local dog friendly café today, it has a big blackboard shaped like a poodle that says dog friendly outside so anyone who doesn't like dogs or want dogs around while they are eating knows not to go there.

I went there for a reason I have 3 pugs one is a rescue pug, she is timid around people, that café means she can be in an environment where people like dogs but can go under the table if she gets scared, it worked for the first time today she took some toast from someone other than me and started to engage with people.

There were 6 dogs there my 3 pugs, a frenchie, two yorkies and a staffie

If I want to go to a pub that allows dogs (say after we have been for a walk in the countryside) I have to phone around first to make sure there is somewhere dog friendly. This is because I have an extra need which is somewhere that allows dogs. If you don't like dogs then you also have an extra need, somewhere that does not allow dogs, as such you should double check if it bothers you. If you can't be bothered to check then you should be prepared for the fact that there may be dogs.
The amount of places that does allow dogs is hugely in the minority so it's not that hard to find somewhere that suits your needs. It's completely up to the owners if they want to allow dogs, of you don't agree with it that's absolutely fine, just go somewhere else.

Yabu.
Sometimes life can be ruff.

I wish more places encouraged dogs.

I don't currently have a dog, and can't right now, so it's lovely to fuss other peoples and generally just have them around 😊

MajesticWhine. You're dead right!🥃🍺

If somewhere doesn't allow dogs then I don't want to go there. Simple. Dogs are my family.

Human children tend to get lice, worms and loads of viruses quite often and be incredibly loud, as well as incontinent for years. I avoid places frequented by them, OP should go to the vast majority of places that don't welcome dogs.
HTH.

I just hire out the whole place, then you don't have to sit next to anyone.

We choose pubs and cafes that allow dogs and take the dog with us. He is usually unnoticed as he lies quietly under the table (waiting for a titbit which is his reward for lying quietly) I prefer places that are dog friendly to those that are children friendly tbh because very few children are as quiet or as well behaved in a pub as the dog is. We find the further North we travel the more places allow dogs.

YABU, I know I'm biased as a dog owner admittedly, but can't imagine ever being annoyed by a dog unless it was being a real nuisance- which doesn't seem to be the case here.

On the other hand, I would personally love more baby-free cafes as the screeching , shrieking and squawking ruins my enjoyment of being there, indulging in an overpriced latte and panini.

Pubs should have dogs. Would feel odd without them.
My local has a veritable rug of dogs on a Friday night. You have to walk like the Grinch to get to the loo.

Cafés, not so much. Find that a bit odd tbh unless it's by the sea.

YANBU! i can't believe people think otherwise!

personally i am thrilled with doggie attention and would offer it some of my sarnie but not everyone likes dogs and if you want to take your pet into such venues then keep it under control. The same goes for kuds

Is it because of behaviour or hygiene?
Because I don't think that either makes sense.

Humans carry germs, viruses are pretty disgusting with lack of hand washing etc.

Behaviour wise, I was in a rural pub today after a walk, it was pretty empty but for us and two tables of couples with children.
My dog lay under the table.

The table with children knocked over a glass of Coke, an arrangement of hop bines and left it all for the staff to clear up.
They actually ruined it for me, the screaming of the toddler and the chaos that ensued.

I honestly don't see why I shouldn't compare that experience just because they are human.

YABU, go elsewhere.

I agree with Foxes

I would much prefer to have a table with a dog near me than screaming/running around brats children.

I know of a cafe/restaurant on the beach that allows dogs but no buggies, so in turn limits small children. Fair enough I didn't go there because I had small children in a buggy. But I've been recently and the dogs are more annoying than the children when one starts barking it sets a load more off. I've not been back again...

And I would class myself as a dog lover.

Meh. I like nice woofy dogs, and so do the kids. Each to their own.

If the dogs are well behaved, I don't see a problem.

But no one's complaining about the ones that are well behaved. They're complaining about the ones that aren't, the ones whose owners let them run rampant off the lead knocking over small children and widdling on people's picnics and then laughing, because "oh, Brutus is just playing!"

And just like with the parking around the school thread, of course the individual person thinks "well, I'm obeying the law/controlling my dog/parking considerately/remaining in control of my dog" but these kinds of complaints, rules, and edicts aren't aimed at you, specifically. They're aimed at the twits, wallies and scum mentioned in the previous paragraph, who let their dogs create a problem and then treat everyone else like the problem is the complaining party, not precious doggo.

Dogs, kids, humans in general - if you don't like them, avoid them. On paper it's good advice. Until you get people like some on this thread telling you you're unreasonable and ridiculous for being afraid and avoiding dogs, selfish and entitled for avoiding children etc. Until you get people going "well, that rule doesn't apply to me, so Fifi Doggington the Third/Little Humphrey can certainly come to this establishment despite all the signs saying dogs/children are not allowed, and anyone who doesn't like that is the problem!"

How are you supposeld to avoid (by going to a place where they're not alowed in), when there are so many people who will just say "stuff everyone else, I'll do what I like"?

Dog owners, I have a dog. But I also have empathy, compassion, and common sense. I adore my dog coming to greet me when I come home from work, all wagging tail and excited panting and little doggy face smooches. But I can see how other people may not feel the same way. I can see how a toddler might not see the happy doggo I see, and might instead see a slobbering tank bearing down upon them.

In short, in this matter as with so many others, people need to STOP and recognize that you're not the only damn person on the planet, and other people's wants and needs aren't "ridiculous" just because they're in opposition with yours. We're all stuck here, we should at least TRY to get along, even just pay lip service to not being self centered piles of human excrement.