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To think that Melania is in an emotionally abusive relationship?

87 replies

sundaybestest · 25/01/2017 14:14

I watch her body language and it doesn't look right to me. I'm no expert but to me she seems trapped. I mean we all know he's a narcissist so it 's possible isn't it?
I wonder, if that's the case, how easy / difficult it would be for her to get out?
I feel sorry for her.

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TheNaze73 · 25/01/2017 14:39

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sundaybestest · 25/01/2017 14:40

That's what I think Navy.
I just can't help but feel sorry for her. And maybe it is all a massive stage fright, we will see I guess...
Stripy - I'm proud to be anti- Trump, no need to dress it up Grin

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VeryBitchyRestingFace · 25/01/2017 14:43

Given that he's been taped admitting to sexually assaulting women, and his first wife memoired that he raped her (before back tracking), I wouldn't be surprised if EA was the least of her troubles... Sad

LuluLovesFruitcakes · 25/01/2017 14:44

You have no way of knowing what their relationship is like.

True. But that coverage of the way her face fell gave me chills.

And that's not anti-Trump, or anti-men (I don't follow the news closely enough) that's just my gut feeling from watching that particular clip.

GoesDownLikeACupOfColdSick · 25/01/2017 14:44

I don't think she does women any favours at all - "I hope they will accept his apology, as I did", she said, wearing a pussy cat bow after his tapes were leaked revealing what he thinks of women....

there's a huge difference in what he seems to want in a wife and what he values in a daughter. How will that shape up for America's female youth in the next 4 years?!

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pickletray · 25/01/2017 14:46

I've seen that clip where she turns round. I don't totally believe anything I read/see because we just don't know how much it's been manipulated etc. But we know he has no respect for women. It's pretty easy to believe that would extend to treating the people close to him badly. I would not be surprised.
BUT
You won't find a bigger Trump hater than me, but there are a lot of people who have a lot to gain from making him look as bad as possible. So I'd take it all with a pinch of salt.

Assuming it is true though....Not fair to say "she's made her bed etc etc" or that she's knew what she was doing. Nobody deserves an abusive relationship. I really don't know how she would get out of it if she wanted to, at least not for the next 4 years.

pickletray · 25/01/2017 14:47

where he* turns round and her face falls I mean...

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GoesDownLikeACupOfColdSick · 25/01/2017 14:53

Because she chose her gilded cage. If you know someone is a nasty twat, but you marry them because they are rich, you are walking into it with your eyes open and doing it for financial gain.

Would she have married him if he had been the same person but a penniless bum? Maybe she would; we don't know her. But it seems unlikely, somehow, that a gorgeous model would marry an old penniless prick like him.

I am not saying that she deserves abuse. But I don't actively feel sorry for her either. There are people who are much more deserving of help and sympathy and support IMO. I've worked with some of them.

dollydaydream114 · 25/01/2017 14:57

I think that she married a very rich older man, knowing full well what he was like, and had fully expected that she wouldn't actually see very much of him, given his business schedule, and that she would be able to lead a relatively quiet and pampered life and bring up her son in their gigantic apartment in Trump Tower before her grim husband either died or she was able to divorce him.

I'm 100% certain that she had no idea he was going to a) run for President some day or b) win, and I think she is horrified that this happened. He has completely destroyed any chance that she (or their young son) can ever have of just leading a standard rich family's life and I think she hates Trump for it. I think she's massively embarrassed by him, is fully aware that he is borderline insane, that she is very miserable. It's pretty telling, I think, that she isn't going to move into the White House with him and is staying in New York with Barron.

Whether he is actually abusive, as such, is something only she can know and I don't think any of us can really make assumptions about that, but I think we can safely say that it's not a happy marriage for her. She looks as she completely despises him half the time and his body language around her is so dismissive, as if she was an accessory rather than a human being.

However, he has always been a total bellend, so it's not like she wouldn't have known what he was like when she married him. There is no way it's a case of someone marrying a charmer and only later discovering what a complete shit he was. Trump has always been Trump.

I dread to think what their prenup was like.

Fintress · 25/01/2017 14:59

Melania is quiet and reserved in RL. I know that for a fact as my daughter has met her and Donald Trump on a fair few occasions.

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Ferrisday · 25/01/2017 15:00

That clip is disturbing
She's either trying to keep that smile and just can't hold back her disdain- strange when so many people are watching.

Or he said something terrifying and she couldn't help her reaction

She's in trouble-at the very least she hates him and feels trapped

derxa · 25/01/2017 15:01

Massive yawn

OddBoots · 25/01/2017 15:01

I wouldn't have the first idea if there is any abuse in their marriage but wasn't it said that she and their son wouldn't be moving into the White House? So if there is any abuse then hopefully that will give her the distance she needs to make her plans and get help.

Every1lovesPatsy · 25/01/2017 15:01

I think her modelling photos all look pretty intense with broody eyes, I think that is her look. She also is very conscious of her appearance and is always checking her inside of her lips are not stuck to her teeth so she is always checking herself. I'ld imagine that comes from being a model and a trophy wife and her value being wrapped up in her appearance.

It's possible that the relationship is abusive or at best transactional, but I don't think the video footage of her face dropping is absolute evidence of that.

dollydaydream114 · 25/01/2017 15:04

more anti-Trumpism dressed up as liberal concern? really these posts are getting ridiculous

Do you not think it's possible think Trump is a monster AND be genuinely concerned for his wife? I'd say the 'liberal concern' is a natural and admirable consequence of anti-Trumpism, not something that people are faking as a means of getting in a dig at him.

About 99% of British people will happily slag off Donald Trump without having to 'dress it up' as anything. It's really not something any of us are embarrassed about. We're pretty open about the fact that we think he's a dangerous buffoon; there's no subterfuge here.

dollydaydream114 · 25/01/2017 15:08

It's possible that the relationship is abusive or at best transactional, but I don't think the video footage of her face dropping is absolute evidence of that.

Oh, I do agree that video doesn't prove a thing. However, there are a million and one other clips in which she looks awkward with him at best and downright repulsed by him at worst. I think 'transactional' is probably an accurate word.

I suspect that she is quite shy too, and just finds a lot of the formal events she has to attend with him acutely embarrassing.

MakeItStopNeville · 25/01/2017 15:12

Just look at the video in context. The minister makes a joke, everyone laughs and then he begins his prayer. Ivanka does exactly the same with her face as Melania. They were at a serious bit so they looked serious!

I think she's perfectly happy with her life plus she gets to stay in her ivory tower for the foreseeable future anyway.

If we're going to bash Trump, let's use the fodder he's given us. There's more than enough since Friday already!

Bluntness100 · 25/01/2017 15:16

Unreasonable. She has been with him twenty years and we have no idea how it works between them, very very likely she is simply deeply uncomfortable with all the media attention, plenty of people would be. Anything else is simply projection. No one here even knows the man, never mind how they are as a married couple.

Bettercallsaul1 · 25/01/2017 15:22

Did you hear the joke on the internet about what was in the beribboned box Melania gave Michelle Obama before the inauguration? A frantically scribbled note saying "Take me with you!"

Aeroflotgirl · 25/01/2017 15:25

I watched the documentary about Trump the immigrant, last week, Ivana Trump left him, because she was wanting to take over, which he did not like, he wants a trophy wife, someone to be under this thumb and stay in her box.

Yes it is obvious she married him for his money, and not his looks or personality. The body language, compared to the Obamas, is very obvious.

MrsPeelyWally · 25/01/2017 15:28

Just look at the video in context. The minister makes a joke, everyone laughs and then he begins his prayer. Ivanka does exactly the same with her face as Melania. They were at a serious bit so they looked serious!

Yes. Thats what I also saw.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 25/01/2017 15:29

I doubt Trump is loyal and loving and we know he has little respect for women and has a huge inflated ego and all the rest

But that doesn't mean he is abusive he does not come across as very caring towards her but she is obviously extremely nervous of being in the spotlight of the world every little move she makes, what she wears, what she says is under horrendously tense scrutiny

I feel very sorry for her and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he was emotionally abusive but often those that are going out of there way to show themselves as something quite different he doesn't

I doubt he is an easy man to live with and her life will be very difficult in the next few years

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