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To bloody love Madonna for doing this?

308 replies

Destinysdaughter · 21/01/2017 22:19

I've been watching the speeches from the Washington women's march today and have felt so inspired and uplifted by them, it's really given me hope, didn't know Madonna was going to be there and I don't want to take away anything from the other speakers as they've all been brilliant but I just wanted to say well done Madonna for being there and adding your voice ( and admittedly celebrity kudos and attention) to this amazing show of dissent, power and love.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/live/2017/jan/21/womens-march-on-washington-and-other-anti-trump-protests-around-the-world-live-coverage?page=with:block-5883cfe4e4b00b8fc2ae363c#block-5883cfe4e4b00b8fc2ae363c

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GinIsIn · 22/01/2017 11:22

Meh. Madonna would make a speech about clubbing seals if it got her publicity.

SuburbanRhonda · 22/01/2017 11:22

Celebrities can lend causes a profile they wouldn't otherwise have.

Not always in a good way, though, as evidenced by her "blowing up the White House" comment.

As long as people don't think she's speaking on behalf of anyone but herself, she can knock herself out.

woman12345 · 22/01/2017 11:25

And Alicia Keys and all 2.5 million of us! Flowers

Bluntness100 · 22/01/2017 11:26

Madonna does attach her self to many many causes, often sadly she turns it into about her and what she can get from doing so. Many celebs do stuff in good causes. Angelina jolie being a very prominent one. There was also many celebs marching against trump.

Sorry, on this I don't see madonna as doing something thoroughly altruistic or admiration worthy,

JanuaryMoods · 22/01/2017 11:27

Dreadful woman.

Teaholic · 22/01/2017 11:31

Destiny I agree with you. There is a lot that doesn't affect the rich and maybe she does quite like the sound of her own voice but she is right, being marginalised under a Trump presidency is not going to be easy. She's right about the complacency that can lead to this happening.

Her speech is actually more relevant than Meryl Streep's. I feel that Madonna understands the power of the small man standing together (Italian American catholic background). Meryl Streep from a more privileged background I suspect!

Creampastry · 22/01/2017 11:33

Poor excuse of a woman

Leviticus · 22/01/2017 11:39

Well Luna I suppose only she truly knows her motives.

But I'd say that she's consistently pursued this agenda throughout her career - at times when it's been 'trendy' and also when she's been heavily criticised over it.

The 'blow up the White House' comment was clearly a joke and followed up by a statement about how this would not be the answer and love/solidarity being needed. A ridiculous storm whipped up by the papers.

bitteroldhag · 22/01/2017 11:40

She should be ashamed with herself, she pulled off and 18 year olds bra while she was on stage last year, total hypocrite!

mollie123 · 22/01/2017 11:51

destiny
What if she's genuinely outraged about Trump and wants to use her voice and celebrity status to inspire and empower other women?

I do not need 'empowering' by the likes of rich madonna as I already feel totally empowered by my own life and real 'role models' not jumped up celebrities.

I was very taken aback by one of the posters held by the motley crew of protestors that read 'Suffragettes against Trump' an insult to those who did vote campaign for real 'equality' back in the day when there really was inequality for women.Angry

CrazyCavalierLady · 22/01/2017 11:51

I'd suggest if all these celebrities wanted their voices to make a difference perhaps they should have used them to mobilise voters and avoid this problem completely?

herecomesthsun · 22/01/2017 11:53

I am horrified that Trump is President.

At the same time, this seems to have happened via a democratic process, and I believe that democracy is a good thing.

So the inauguration of a democratically elected leader in itself is just part of the democratic process, however unwise the choice appears.

I'm a bit puzzled as to how protesting at this stage will help the situation, or what the protesters hoped to achieve, myself.

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 22/01/2017 11:54

back in the day when there really was inequality for women

I'd love to live in your fantasy world.

Celebrities have just as much right to voice their opinion as the rest of us. Telling actors, artists etc "not to be political" is disingenuous; the vast majority of art and the creative arts is inherently political.

Leviticus · 22/01/2017 11:57

crazy a quick google of 'madonna vote' or similar will link you to years of campaigning by Madonna on this very issue.

MuteButtonisOn · 22/01/2017 11:58

She could be president one day.

BillSykesDog · 22/01/2017 12:04

I think it's entirely counterproductive as was Meryl Streep's speech at the Golden Globes. They only play well with those already converted to the cause. It's fairly well known that at the moment much of the electorate are fed up by being lectured by wealthy elites who are totally detached from the lives of ordinary people and frequently have little in depth knowledge of politics either. Bear in mind that many of Madonna's pronouncements during the election campaign were very damaging, such as offering a blow job to anybody who voted Clinton. Which also rather makes you wonder what she's doing at a 'women's rights' event when she seems to think that the most important contribution she could make to the campaign as a woman was offering men sexual acts.

Nor do I think it was brave. She voiced views which are utterly conformist in terms of the attitudes of her peers who will heartily approve. She's taken no risk, she won't lose work or be shunned by her peers. She's done a safe, risk free conformist thing.

Bear in mind the McCarthyist era when left wingers were black balled in Hollywood, were unable to work and were shunned by their peers. It's a very similar situation now and most of the arts community are absolute hypocrites as they will recoil from that but are perfectly happy to behave in exactly the same way to those whose politics they disagree with.

I'm not personally a Trump supporter, but I have far more respect for those like Jon Voight, Michael Flatley and other performers who've spoken out in support of him or performed at the inauguration. Not because I particularly agree with what they have to say, but because they genuinely have been brace in standing up to threats and intimidation and risking loss of work and status to stand up for something they believe in.

I never support those who seek to silence and censor those whose views differ from their own. I respect those who have the bravery to speak out in the face of intimidation.

There was nothing brace

Teaholic · 22/01/2017 12:07

Oh no, did she say she'd give Clinton voters a blow job? offs. She is not a voice for women really. She doesn't want women to be second to men, I believe that that is obviously genuine but she's not the right advocate for women.

SWOTAnalysis · 22/01/2017 12:10

but I just wanted to say well done Madonna for being there and adding your voice

A shared sense of victimhood isn't enough reason to protest democracy and expect to make a difference.

It didn't even really make sense. She threatened to blow up the white house. Never acceptable.

We are women. And you are we. And we are you'

?????

SuburbanRhonda · 22/01/2017 12:10

much of the electorate are fed up by being lectured by wealthy elites who are totally detached from the lives of ordinary people and frequently have little in depth knowledge of politics either

Sounds like a very accurate description of Trump tbh.

Dawndonnaagain · 22/01/2017 12:11

So nice to see women being supportive of one another, fucking hell, we don't need men to put us down, do we!

JustAnotherSilentOldNumber · 22/01/2017 12:11

And you are we. And we are you'

And we are all together

I am the walrus Coo coo Ga Choo.

mothertruck3r · 22/01/2017 12:11

Serious question - What rights is Trump actually proposing to remove from women?

Also, the elephant in the room is that there don't seem to be any mass marches for places where there are literally no rights for women, such as the Middle East where women are not even allowed to do basic things like drive a car (Saudi Arabia) and places like Pakistan where women are jailed for being raped.

By all means exercise your (Western) freedoms to be able to march against Trump but as a woman I sometimes feel like the real threats to women never get addressed because of religious and cultural sensitivities.

JustAnotherSilentOldNumber · 22/01/2017 12:12

So nice to see women being supportive of one another, fucking hell, we don't need men to put us down, do we!

Blinding following anyone just because they happen to be a woman is dangerous.

BillSykesDog · 22/01/2017 12:15

So nice to see women being supportive of one another, fucking hell, we don't need men to put us down, do we!

Then I presume you would be fully supportive of a woman who voiced pro-Trump views?

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