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AIBU?

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WIBU to say that choirs full of people who can't sing (Rock Choir) are awful?

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PleasantPheasant · 21/01/2017 22:06

Honestly? I love singing, I think everyone should sing, and sing in groups - it's great. But why all the performances, crap choreography, shitty leaders who also can't sing and are presumably failed musicians. Why can't the ladies (and men) - very few of which can actually sing or understand rhythm, harmony, pitch... - just do it for fun and leave it at that? Why do they think they're amazing singers and their performances are great. From what I've seen they are largely outside, with shit backing music, crap acoustics making the whole thing even worse. AIBU?

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Rooiboscz · 23/01/2017 00:18

Panty, the OP said that choirs are great for people. It's the inflicting it on the public that's the problem. Read the OP!

PantyLiner · 23/01/2017 00:23

Panty, the OP said that choirs are great for people. It's the inflicting it on the public that's the problem. Read the OP

I have read the OP and subsequent posts Roo. I don't understand what OP is complaining about. Is it just Rock Choirs Op has a problem with or all choirs?? Who decides which choir members can sing and who cant??

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 00:36

Why shouldn't someone join a choir for uplifting, positive experiences??

If you're not pitch perfect, you should be staying at home and not inflicting yourself on other people, that's why!!
Screw getting out there and doing something you actually enjoy, socialising, and bettering yourself vocally.
disclaimer - not my actual view but aware sarcasm doesn't carry well over the t'internet and it's definitely a view that's been expressed by a minority on the thread already....

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 00:38

It's the inflicting it on the public that's the problem. Read the OP!

Nobody's "inflicting it on the public" though. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that nobody else does!!
Tune out and walk on by if you're that distressed or annoyed by it.

Sallystyle · 23/01/2017 06:43

Inflicting it on the public

Bloody hell, some people are so precious. I wonder how they cope. Who would have thought that listening to people sing would cause such hardship?

Every time I go shopping in the city I am bombarded by various buskers of all kind of levels of talent. I manage.

JeffreyNeedsAHobby · 23/01/2017 07:12

I may be paraphrasing the OP here...
Honestly? I love writing on MN and think everyone should - it's great. But why post about hobbies of people you never met? Why post a mean spirited diatribe just because you can't say 'no thanks' to friends and family or learn to use the remote control or your own feet to walk away from them in town? AIBU?

cherrycokehead · 23/01/2017 10:06

StrangeLookingParasite - not just my opinion, everyone responding to that comment of yours thought it was weird and ridiculous... or all we all 'ignorant'? Honestly it's one of the silliest comments I've ever seen on here!

maddiemookins16mum · 23/01/2017 10:16

Some are better than others (the same could be said for local Am Dram groups). I went to a show for one in Kent last year, they were funny, enjoyable and most of all were having a ball. A dear friend of mine was widowed and joining this choir has really helped her. They aren't meant to be "professionals".

blackheartsgirl · 23/01/2017 10:28

Well thanks op. I belong to a small amateur choir but now I'm thinking of not going back. I'm one of those people who isn't very good at singing but I do it because I've been through some shit and singing helps me to forget it for an hour and it gets me out and talking to people something that I struggle with these days. But I suppose I'm just a shit boring middle aged tone deaf piece of shit

KurriKurri · 23/01/2017 10:46

blackheartgirl - please don't give up something you love because of some stranger on the internet spouting an opinion (which it seems many of us don't share)

MN is terrible for ageism and in particular midleageism and sexism. the crap people write about middle aged women as if we are some sort of sub class of inferior stupid human being with silly hobbies and interests is quite astounding.
Middle aged woman seems to be the ultimate insult - substitute it with any other group of people an dimply they are all the same or sub standard in some way and everyone would be up in arms.

If you stop doing what you love you pander to the bigotry. It doesn't matter what a few strangers think, - go to your choir and enjoy yourself, it is freeing and releasing and it is part of you. And I for one love hearing people sing - it's the most joyful thing in the world and I would happily listen to any choir whatever their ability.

Anyone who makes you feel like shit through their words is not worth a moment of your time or energy. Ignore. Do the things you love.

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 10:51

I belong to a small amateur choir but now I'm thinking of not going back. I'm one of those people who isn't very good at singing but I do it because I've been through some shit and singing helps me to forget it for an hour and it gets me out and talking to people something that I struggle with these days. But I suppose I'm just a shit boring middle aged tone deaf piece of shit

Don't let the miserable sods grind you down. YOU enjoy it, why stop just because of some moaners?
I'm sure you're not tone deaf and middle aged. Even if you are though, so bloody what?! Sing louder and think "screw you, I'm ace" lol

StrangeLookingParasite · 23/01/2017 10:54

Keep digging.

StrangeLookingParasite · 23/01/2017 10:56

And I guess you're one of these tone-deaf people saying 'see, I am a real singer, I've sung on stage'. I've heard people say it, and there are multiple instances of it through the thread, so why does it then become a 'silly' comment.

You're rude, and fairly stupid.

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 10:58

Hear, hear, kurrikurri

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 11:00

You're rude

Helloooo, pot kettle....

StrangeLookingParasite · 23/01/2017 11:02

glitternazi, since her opening post to me was "StrangeLookingParasite you actually thought about it and then came up with that load of rubbish?" when I had never addressed her before, who do you think is rude?
I love how being abused for having an opinion is now 'rude'.

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 11:07

Maybe just me, but I'd have thought calling someone stupid was classed as rude, too....

cherrycokehead · 23/01/2017 11:12

Keep digging StrangeLookingParasite

cherrycokehead · 23/01/2017 11:14

And... did you just call glitterazi glitternazi?!

glitterazi · 23/01/2017 11:19

And... did you just call glitterazi glitternazi?!

Lol, missed that! Oops, I'm assuming that was an unfortunate typo and not more rudeness, there's enough rudeness already on this thread

cherrycokehead · 23/01/2017 11:29

I hope so! But who knows with all the insults flying around!

Wellthatsit · 23/01/2017 11:57

Don't be put off by Bitch comments if you are in or want to join a choir. Check out what your local choirs do, and pick the one that does the sort of music you like. Rock Choir is more commercial and homogenous than a lot of good local choirs run by volunteers and us icons giving their time for free or for little payment. But if pop music, singing in big venues and having a laugh is what you're after, rock choir could fit the bill. As for the whole 'it's forced on me at rugby matches, how is that different from thee loud canned music forced on us all the time at sports events and in shops etc? Singing is a 'performing art' - the clue is in the name for those who think there shouldn't be performances.

EnormousTiger · 23/01/2017 12:51

If music is outside, rock style very loud and imposed on people who have not come into a venue to hear it then that may well breach local noise regulations. if it is a show inside and you cannot hear it outside then people can sing however they like as they are not disturbing others and if people dont't want to hear they don't have to come in.

I love all forms of classical music but I don't impose it on anyone else as I realise Purcell etc is not to everyone's taste.

Choirs are great for people. I've sung all my life. I'm pretty good - never met a professional singer yet (and have often sung with them) who can sight sing as well I can, have absolute pitch, 4 grade 8s etc and could well have become a professional singer but Iike it instead as a hobby. I would simply only join choirs where everyone else is my standard or in the same ball park range and also I like smaller choirs, just a few voices per part and I always make sure it's music I like to sing.

I don't agree singing is always a performing art. Loads of people in all kinds of cultures sing as they work. My teenagers sing in the shower. People sing around and about all their lives which is wonderful. it makes you feel good. It makes you happy. They sing in churches as an act of worship with no clapping at all as it's religious. I sing every day on my own too accompanying myself at the piano for short periods, breaks up the day. Also my parents after our bed time stories sang to us every night when we were small and I did the same for our children. We also have always had tapes to sing to in the car. So not always just a performance art.

However people should not con themselves in any walk of life or hobby into thinking they are good when they aren't. Let us not have top prizes for all you are all as good as each other stuff or excellence gets snuffed out. You only have to go on youtube to see how much better people are than others.

Wellthatsit · 23/01/2017 13:00

Not sure I understand your message Tiger Music IS a performing art - it doesn't mean it always has to be performed, but there is an inherent assumption that written music is designed to be performed, and people are suggesting that people should learn it then aren't allowed to perform it, because the standard of performance offends them. I agree that quality is important, but don't believe Rock Choir dilutes others ability to perform Purcell in small groups to a high standard. Tjat is still eminently possible. There might be people who can't tell what is a good performance and what isn't, just like there are people who love Katherine Jennies and people who think she's rubbish.. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

motherinferior · 23/01/2017 13:11

Meh. Rock choirs and community choirs and so forth all do have a place. If you want to have a good time, in a vaguely therapeutic manner, go right ahead.

I'll stick with my chamber choir - most of whom are well into middle age and beyond, thanks.

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