AIBU to think it's ok for disabled to park in P&C parking spaces

[SparkyStar84]

After the fun with the last post, going from experience too, I wondered how many would support the notion of the buses legislation AND a disabled person parking in a P&C space where ever, if the disabled spaces are full.

Technically we have the right too with a badge.

I've had issues before where the person with me has parked in a P&C space, without DC present, parents have got quite ratty.

If I'd said I was furious and it was vile I'd see your point

Treacle my mam once got a mouthful for using a p+c space. She's been given a blue badge during chemo as she could barely walk she had that little energy.

If I offended anyone I'm sorry. I really wasn't comparing my problem with getting a car seat back in the car to the issues disabilities can bring with them.

LucklessMonster

Why would I imagine something that doesn't happen? Maybe once in a million times would you back to your car to find people parked 5 inches away either side of it.

Good grief, you are funny. I am glad you never experience bad drivers, you must live in a wonderful place. I live in London, being blocked is fairly common, there are countless social media group being created to rant against terrible parking with photos to prove the point. It might never happen to you, it happens to other people.

I didn't buy the "smallest" car seat, I chose to buy the safest. I don't deny the right of disable people to park where possible for them.

The attitude of some posters so against "entitled parents" because they use the P&C parking spaces (in a parenting forum no less) is pathetic. Why do you always try to start an argument?

-Disabled people can use blue-badge space and P&C spaces.
-yes of course
-Parents don't need to use P&C spaces at all after all.
-Actually, they do. Give priority to disabled people by all means, but parents do need the spaces too. Why shouldn't they use them when they are there?
-Absolutely not, you lot are entitled and arrogant and rude, in my time, I managed with triplets, a minibus on a small car parking space and I never had a problem.

ok.....

My point has been proven

When I had a baby and a toddler and was tired and deluded in a busy supermarket car park I challenged a middle aged bloke for sitting in a car in a P&C space when they clearly had no kids. He swore at me saying he was disabled and I should be ashamed of myself.

Actually he was probably the one in the wrong here. It says in the rulebook we got with ds's BB that you are only supposed to use the badge to park if the disabled person is getting out of the car. You cannot use it to sit and wait while someone else nips in to do a bit of shopping.

The massive Winnebago I observed which was parked longways across 4 disabled spaces however?
I'm afraid I did this once . We were on our way to Cornwall and ds needed the toilet so we pulled off the main road. We drove for what seemed miles along country lanes until we came to a small town/village and saw a sign for a leisure centre. By then things were getting desperate so we pulled in and thankfully they had a disabled toilet with disabled parking out front. Unfortunately we had a trailer on the back of the car and I couldn't see any way of parking without blocking the road so I went across the disabled bays. We did have a blue badge! I got ds into the toilets in the nick of time but I was willing him to hurry up before anyone else needed the spaces as I felt so guilty. Luckily no one else turned up so it was ok. Of course we then discovered we were lost and had no idea where we were!

Absolutely fine for a disabled person to have priority over p&c spaces.
Though they really should fine people who park in disabled and p&c spaces without needing them. So many do. Or move the p&c spaces to the back of the car park to deter customers from taking them. I just need the extra room to get the kids out.

Blue badge holders should absolutely use p&c spaces if they need them. And of course buggies should find for wheelchairs on buses.

But this thread so blatantly on the coattails of the bus thread feels so much like a specific trap to bring out the 'entitled parents' so we can all jeer at how awful they are and feel smug. Getting really fucking fed up with the relentless bashing of parents of small children on here.

I loathe the use of the word entitled too.

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Agree blue badge. Most parents will give priority to disabled.
But it's not easy with small children in large car seats and it's only for a few years. I don't see why people begrudge them a slightly larger parking space.
I was never offended by p&c spaces before I had kids and I'm sure I won't be when I no longer need them.

I am 39 weeks pregnant. My unborn baby has the same disability as my DS and earlier this year DS had the first of his operations necessary for his disability. The surgeon has already spoken about the next lot of surgery being on the same day for both DC. The surgery requires extensive plastercast afterwards and DS was unable to walk or lift his arm. I have applied for a temporary blue badge but we can't get one because DS is 2 and his plastercasts don't stay on for a year.

I agree with blue badge holders using the p&c spaces, but I also want to point out that sometimes they are crucial to parents like me because the blue badge scheme discriminates against children so much. I do admit to feeling very angry when I see a person in a p&c space with no dc, practically leaping out of their shiny 2 seater sports car and running into the shops. When my DC have their op's, if there isn't a p&c space I simply won't be able to get out of the car because I wont be able to get two children in extensive plaster out of their car seats without the door being wide open.

Received a verbal effing and jeffing yesterday. My local small Tesco has one disabled spot, it's used by twats who ignore the big disabled sign painted on the space and show no consideration. I had to park in the middle of two spaces or I wouldn't have been able to get out of the car into wheelchair. Cue a man and woman swearing their tree off abusing me.

The store don't give a toss the disabled spot isn't adhered to either.

I have once pulled into a P and C space and dashed out of the car and into ASDA without apparently having a child with me. I moved quickly and hoped no one spotted me because it looked bad. But in fact my mum was meeting me in the shop with my baby and the pram. I was back to the car a couple of minutes later to load the pram and then we did the shop and left all together. So, sometimes even the blatant P and C space abusers actually do have children.

And of course disabled people should park there too if all the disabled bays are full.

There is a slight difference in the way the legislations would have to work though. The bus ruling is about drivers being required to compel parents/carers using the W/C space to vacate it when a W/C user requires it. But I can't see a supermarket tannoying out for the owner of license plate AB17 CDE to come move their car mid shop. It would have to be more along the lines of 'don't abuse BB holders using P&C spaces' (how sad we would need legislation for this but the previous thread shows there are some twats out there). Or perhaps P&C signs should include a line such as 'and/or those with a need for additional access/BB holders where necessary'

I used to use P&C spaces because I was fat and not very good at parking. Meh.

Lovely that's awful there should be a better temporary system in place on the blue badge scheme.

This is basically a TAAT - OP you were the OP of the other thread too, it's almost like you are trying to shit stir...

Yep. What Livia said

Some people just don't like it when the sentiment is pro disability.

Round here that's unusual so damn right I'm going to be 'smug' about it.

Basically - having a disability is a legally protected characteristic. P&C spaces are a courtesy to parents.

Anyone can theoretically park in P&C spaces.

Anyone who gives a disabled person shit for where they park is a cunt.

mambono5 I also live in London. This doesn't happen. If you need to make crap up to justify your position, it's not a good position.

This is basically a TAAT - OP you were the OP of the other thread too, it's almost like you are trying to shit stir...

She gleefully announced in that thread that one about P&C spaces would create similar interest.

Anyone who gives a disabled person shit for where they park is a cunt

This is now going to be my response on any thread about this, I'm done trying to explain and be reasonable. This covers it in one sentence.

I think it has to be simple - some people are too thick to get it apparently. I have very little experience with disability but I can see it...

I feel very strongly about this issue. Under no circumstances should a blue badge holder be stopped from parking in a parent and child space.

P&C spaces are for convenience of parents with children. Convenience doesn't come in to it for people who have disabilities - it's just a basic necessity that they are entitled to.

Therefore, if a blue badge holder needs to use a P&C space, they take priority over parents with children.

It's nice that people think it's entertaining to encourage others to be unpleasant at the expense of disabled people.

My particular favourite gem from this thread is; "I have nothing against disabled people using the space they need." That's fucking big of you, ta. It's actually the law to provide reasonable adjustments but don't let that bother you.

And of course disabled people should park there too if all the disabled bays are full.
No. Disabled people should park there if that's where they need to park. It's irrelevant whether or not the disabled bays are full.

Still puzzled about the anger against people agreeing with you.

Are you against P&C spaces full stop? Do you want parents to stop using them to let them available for blue badges? Why are you so enraged about parents using P&C Spaces, and agreeing that it's not unreasonable for disabled people to use them too? Are you pissed off they did not exist in your time? Are you jealous of people simply having a car and a family? I don't get your point at all.

I think a lot of you should go and take some fresh air, you are so angry and bitter, ranting on your keyboard. It's not a valid exercise, trying to find something to be offended by.

LucklessMonster You are an idiot. Countless posts with photos showing bad parking are available everywhere on the internet. Believe what you wish, keep ranting, and enjoy your anger. Sounds shit to be you frankly!