Monthly bin collections is a FAB idea

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There is outrage over this on LBC. But I think its a really good idea, I remember the same outrage when they went to fortnightly.

We're a family of 4, we recycle, compost and avoid buying over packaged stuff and anything in plastic (especially veg and fruit!). As a result the bin only goes out once a month and often isn't full. If you don't have a garden then a weekly food collection pickup is available.

I see other people with only one or two people in their house and every other week their green wheelie is bursting. I know from times they have used ours that they put alot of food waste and packaging in the bin. We are rather wasteful in this country compared to just about every other European county.

wonderful idea isn't it? we still have weekly collections that doesn't stop the HMO next door stuffing their rubbish in our bun (that's already fullo by bin day) and me getting fined by the council. m as it is I have to stay up all night before bin day (the bin men come really early in the morning) to make sure my bin isn't used b others. and ive filmed them and reported them but they stillo do it.

I work from home, tutoring, I have a lot of recycling (craft stuff etc) that needs picking up every week.

food waste- local urban foxes and cats help themselves. imagine the stench of food in a month. and rats.

DC uses incontinent pants. imagine the smell there.

oh yes, fab idea.

meanwhile council, raise our council taxes yet again whole lining your own pockets.

Eagle - presumably different in different parts of the US as my family members in the US have collections. Also I imagine the majority of people drive in the US unlike in the UK so easier?

And that's fine. Your choice. My point is that then you should pay extra for additional / private refuse collections to match your lifestyle choices

I already pay for private refuse collection. But my black bin is mostly nappies, I imagine I have less waste than a lot of people who aren't using nappies, so why should I pay extra?

Oh re using terry nappies instead of throwaway ones, there is no evidence to suggest that this helps the environment. You have to use more water, more detergent, more electric. (Unless you are washing and scrubbing them in the bathwater you already used with a bar of soap you made up of scraps you used from bits other people have thrown out PMSL!) And I don't believe that the nappies dry (without the heating on overnight; ) only between May and October possibly when the temperature is over 18C.

I am sensing a bit of 'cook from scratch' brigade right here! And the 'you're a monster if you don't breastfeed your baby' brigade! Horribly condescending and judgemental.

Not wanting your nearly teenage child to be walking around in an enormous obvious terry nappy (even if they existed) is not a lifestyle choice.

Reminds me of the letters every week in the local paper from the "environmentally concerned" who want to get rid of the city centre car parks, advocate a congestion charge etc etc... and then their address at the bottom reveals they live two paces from the high street.

People who want monthly waste collections should step into the shoes (or stand downwind of a wheelie bin) of someone who lives in a street of terraced houses, preferably one with a lot of student/rented accommodation.

My point is that then you should pay extra for additional / private refuse collections to match your lifestyle choices.

And what about all the people who physically do not have access to this?

Being disabled or living below the poverty line are not lifestyle choices. Your suggestion would heavily penalise those already most marginalised by society.

I only used disposables so I have no skin in the game here but honestly, reusables are more ecofriendly. The report that said there wasn't much difference made a lot of dubious assumptions but in any case as well as energy and water there is the reducing landfill issue.
Despite this though, no-one should be forced to use them. We all do a lot of things that aren't eco friendly and I can't see why people who do caring work (whether for babies, elderly people or disabled family members) should be the ones to take the strain.

Reusable nappies (and sanpro) are made from cotton, and that is in no way environmentally friendly. Cotton agriculture has destroyed swathes of land in the USA that could have been used for crops.

Hemp is a viable alternative to cotton and is genuinely environmentally friendly. It has no known pests and few diseases. It can be fertilised with sewage. The root ball can be left to rot, holding the soil together and improving it. There is no waste.
But the USA was so hot on the War on Drugs it cannot now bring itself to back down on hemp.

We tried several different types of reusable nappies with dc1 but they all leaked, I couldn't find any that would fit right. We have ongoing problems with damp and mould in our house (despite keeping the windows open ) and so we wouldn't have been able to use them during the winter anyway.

If I could use reusables I would because it's awful having bags of dirty nappies sitting outside our back door for 2 weeks. One day in the summer I was walking on the street past our house and there was this really awful smell - I realised it was coming from our garden and it was all the dirty nappies sitting in the sun

We live in a block of 4 flats but we share two bins for four flats. The recycling and food waste is collected every week, but rubbish is every other week. Recycling and rubbish are usually full every time. I can't control how much everyone else puts out, so don't want to have to worry about having rubbish stuck in my house or sitting around outside because there's no room in the bin! Monthly collection would be a nightmare.

USer - my house is always over 18 degrees. In summer naturally, winter with heating. Nappies on rack at 9pm are dry by morning.

Spikey - we used tots bots bamboo. The tots bots bamboozle (newer ones), hold 1litre of water, not 250ml.

Fizz - our washing machine wasn't on all hours. Twice a week. Took me 2 mins as the machine did the rest, not hard labour

Most people aren't going to have every factor of large house, garden, car, energy, not disabled, own washing machine, etc but in the U.K. Now it would be rare people didn't have one factor and couldn't do one thing to reduce waste. Imagine if everyone magaged to reduce waste by 10%? That would be huge in total

The issue is everyone is saying 'oh it smells', 'oh maggots' , 'oh lack of space'. Yeah? But that's still a problem just not in your house. Yet. It still has to go somewhere

If you have a garden I don't see why you wouldn't compost. It would save you buying any compost to use on your garden the following year. And with that could even look at starting to grow some own veg or fruit to reduce again

I lived in another country for 7 years. Our household rubbish was separated into two wheelie bins, one for recyclables and one for non-recyclables. When I first lived there, both bins were emptied twice a day. After four years this service was reduced to once per day. The local people were furious, petitions were organised and there was a lot of talk about how unhygienic and health-hazardous this reduction in refuse collection would be.

"Imagine if everyone magaged to reduce waste by 10%? That would be huge in total"

"Imagine if every store magaged to reduce packaging by 10%? That would be huge in total"

Corrected that for you :)

I think it's a horrendous idea. We're a family of 4 and have rubbish stored in the garage to go straight in the bin once emptied, which fills it straight away, so back to storing in the garage. Same with recycling!!
Doubt there would be a reduction in council tax either!!

Artandco - he is 11. He doesn't fit into toddler nappies. As I said before they don't make reuseables for fully incontinent older children and adults.

Gah - if everyone reduce their own waste by 10% and stores by 10%, then 20% could be reduced quite easily

It's not just food waste and packaging though, but also sheer waste of goods that people no longer want. Consumerism. People have something that's still good, but throw away as replace with different tyoenor model. If it's still good it should be donated somewhere.
Ie a neighbour throws away all her kids clothes when outgrown, there's nothing wrong with 99% of them and I'm sure someone would be happy to use them. Toys thrown, old crockery, etc etc. Most things thrown can be reused, but once binned won't be.

Art &Eco. Reliables for older children and adults with severe double incontinence just wouldn't work. The quantity of urine that a teenager produces is significantly greater than a one year old. And i don't fancy washing adult sized shits from nappies thank you very much. Do you really think that care homes have the capacity to use reusable a with every resident? Do you think that every person with a significant disability has the capacity to manage reuseables? Have you ever had to care for a teenager or adult who is double incontinent and has a learning disability?

^^ should have said art&co.

Spikey - of course they sell them. Whether you use them is your choice, but they obviously sell them. Found these in one search www.thenappylady.co.uk/childadult-incontinence/bambinex-child-to-adult-incontinence.html

Six clearly not or no one would be suggesting it

And you can't dry adult sized reusable nappies on a small rack overnight. Those things are bloody huge and bulky. And of the person has digestive issues or isn't the same as dealing with a baby blowout in a reusable nappy.

well art I already run our machine at least once a day. Not everyone is the same as you.

SIx - yes I have experience of children and adults with disabilities. My siblings.
I'm not saying everyone has to use, I'm saying they are available which people are saying aren't. No not everyone has a washing machine, but most do don't they? very few families don't. Even one reusable nappy used a day would be 7 saved a week/ 28 a month ie most a bin full

£27 each! How many would you have to buy?! Allowing enough for a couple of washes a week and plenty of time for them to dry naturally...