My first AIBU! The word 'gotten'

[MollyHuaCha]

Why is this creeping over the pond into our language? AIBU to be bothered about this?

Someone will turn up to tell you it's also longstanding British Regional usage. They always do when 'gotten' is mentioned.

But I know what you mean about people with British accents aping American usage. It drives me mad. "Can I get" instead of "Could/May I have" or "I would like" to serving or waiting staff is my personal bugbear. Also "wait staff" itself instead of "waiting staff" or "waiter/waitress". It sounds very try hard.

I agree with Worra, the "So" thing is infinitely more annoying than "gotten". I can't understand why people have started doing it.

everythingis what kind of weirdo rides items in a cafe? That's very nearly perverted!

X posted with absolutely everyone, I see

I dislike it intensely too.

Also my daughter's habit of saying "I'm excited for the party" - no, you're excited ABOUT the party.

YANBU. Annoys me too! Especially friends who have just started saying it over the last couple of years.

The past tense form of get is got; the past participle of got is gotten

Nope, in current English the past particle is got. The fact that it was correct usage a very long time ago doesn't make it correct usage now.

Completely agree on the use of "So". What on earth is the point? It's extra typing for no purpose whatsoever.

YANBU. It may have been correct here once, but it's not now, and it's irritating.

"I have gotten..." sounds far less harsh to my ears than "I have got..."

Although having typed that, I've just realised that I have got a cold...

Ahh - the usual American bashing threads. Remembering now why I left MN.

There's a serious conflict between forcing other nations to adopt a certain language, patting yourselves on the back for having the international language of many interactions and then bemoaning the fact that you can't control how English is evolving.

You might call this problem the heart of the brexit contradiction.

My (very old) MILs mother tongue is Irish. When she speaks English she says gotten as do a lot of people from her part of the world. They also say 'it do be' instead of 'it is' I find regional variations like that fascinating.

Stewie an American copying Britishisms would sound just as weird and affected wouldn't it?

Basically.

Drives me mad. I watched a programme recently and one bloke started every sentence with "basically"

"Basically, I need you to..."
"Basically, we have to..."

And sometimes even " So, basically..."

I nearly threw the remote at the TV (and breathe..)

Can't get worked up about any of this, sorry

I've always used 'gotten' occasionally, as in certain sentences it just flows more naturally. I haven't noticed any particular increase in hearing it.

I don't rate that as on a par with the annoying 'can I get' etc. I suppose I'll have to stop saying gotten now, lest people think I'm adopting Americanisms.

I can't say it bothers me. Nor does 'can I get'. I don't see that as being rude, provided the person says please and thank you in the accepted manner.

I'm usually such a pedant too!

When I was young we used all sorts of words my parents group declared bad English and are now considered normal. Younger people are now doing the same as every new generation since language was invented.

Anyone remember what an old fuddy-duddy was?

Yes you are being unreasonable. What on earth is wrong, anyway, with American English. Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Dorothy Parker, Elizabeth Bishop, Groucho Marx all did ok with it.

They were all American TBF albert so I doubt it sounded odd on them

Ditto "Sorry for your loss". It's saying you are sorry for them, i.e. you pity them, and it sounds patronising. You're sorry about their loss.