To think it's not necessarily rude to correct the teacher?

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DS is nearly ten, he's always been well behaved for the most part and very polite. But lately he has had a bit of an edge to him. He's told me today he's been told off and had to lose his break for correcting the teachers spelling. I know it depends on how he did it. From what he's said he wasn't that rude but is it the correcting that's rude, full stop?

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I made the teacher squirm and correct the spelling in the book. Much more effective than an angry battle.

Yep. We've a word for parents like you. It's usually by parent who forget that teachers are educated to a minimum of a higher second class degree and a post grad."

Quite.

Some parents need to focus on their child's learning instead of trying to score petty points. This truculence says more about the parents than it does the misspelling.

Any chance it was the umpteenth time that morning? Bit harsh but more understandable if her lesson had been interrupted multiple times already.

We had a similar incident when DD was 9. Teacher was completely wrong about a maths lesson she was teaching, it was about negative numbers. My DD, who was very quiet and timid, told her she was wrong and explained why. Teacher got angry, DD got a bit more courage and argued her corner. Teacher ended up by telling her she needed time with the SN teacher, DD was top of her year in maths and English and we were told that after assessments as she had recently joined the school.

They all went off to lunch, teacher came back in the afternoon and retaught the lesson, she had obviously gone and asked for advice in the staffroom I think.

No apology, no quiet word with DD to acknowledge she was right.

Lost all respect for the teacher and then went to an event one evening where a new maths scheme was being introduced. As the speaker asked maths questions it became clear that this teacher had a real problem with numbers so I guess her reaction was due to her own insecurities.

*Rainmaker1: Her place? She is the teacher so 'her place' is to make the rules in her classroom.

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I did not take it up,with head. It was a fairly small deal. Teacher didn't like ac6 year old could spell better than her. She was generally a nice teacher and brilliant at art type things, textiles etc. I think we need to teach our kids about human failings and get them to accept life isn't always fair. I made the point at the next parents evening when we look through work. I made the teacher squirm and correct the spelling in the book. Much more effective than an angry battle.

Hardly an attitude that teaches respect for human failings

Even if the rules are wrong?

Well, I didn't say that. If you believe the rules are inappropriate you can take it up with her boss, but 'her place' is in charge of her classroom unless something is going seriously wrong. Rainmaker has implied that she is some sort of skivvy rather than a qualified professional with every right to set rules according to her preferences and within reason.

aliPartout I was talking about poor standards in general not just spelling. For example, only yesterday we had a thread about a biology teacher who doesn't believe in evolution. In my opinion there's a lot of truth in the phrase "Those who can't do, teach." And that's before we get onto the political leanings of most teachers.

Rainmaker1: What do their political leanings have to do with this? Honestly, do keep your grudges to yourself.

Those who can't do, teach

So you would prefer no-one to teach? Do you have kids?

And that's before we get onto the political leanings of most teachers.

What exactly do you mean.

The teachers I know (which is a vast number) have very varied political leanings. Not that it has to do with anything!

I'd raise hell. Sounds like this fucker needs firmly putting back in her place.

With reacations like this, they wonder why teachers are leaving the profession in droves.

Some seriously disturbing teacher hating on this thread.

Children tend to learn tone of voice from someone, usually parents, but possibly another pupil. Can you think of anyone else who uses that 'excuuuse me?'. You need to explain that it can be acceptable in some situations but not in others. Not from a child to a teacher.

It's a bit passive aggressive, somehow. Like the parent that used to burst into the classroom ten minutes late with a breezy 'don't let me interrupt' or 'don't mind me' and bustle about selling her DS after I had just settled everyone else. That was the DM of my first ever special snowflake....

One thing I like to ask my students who complain about the unreasonable behaviour of others at school is "and what would the other person say happened? what would the bystanders say happened?" not so much for the extra detail but for how they deal with the question. It gives me an insight into whether details are being deliberately withheld to make their story more watertight.

If it went down how your son said, it's totally unacceptable. But, it feels a bit off. Like there's a bit of context that's missing.

dd has ASD, she can spell any word she has ever seen or heard. Rules of grammar are rigid and appeal to her too. It's something she finds really easy and her teachers were always pretty relaxed about being corrected. I wouldn't say that any of her teachers were poor at this aspect, it's easy to make mistakes when busy and dd would spot an errant semi colon from a hundred paces tbh.

DD is like this too (also ASD). Her teachers have got used to her mostly, but some get annoyed. Very particular with apostrophe's especially. She will stifle a laugh if she sees an error. Not very tactful!
But it's like she cannot help herself but correct. She says it's "physically painful" to see bad spelling and grammar

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dd has ASD, she can spell any word she has ever seen or heard. Rules of grammar are rigid and appeal to her too. It's something she finds really easy and her teachers were always pretty relaxed about being corrected. I wouldn't say that any of her teachers were poor at this aspect, it's easy to make mistakes when busy and dd would spot an errant semi colon from a hundred paces tbh.

DD is like this too (also ASD). Her teachers have got used to her mostly, but some get annoyed. Very particular with apostrophe's especially. She will stifle a laugh if she sees an error. Not very tactful!
But it's like she cannot help herself but correct. She says it's "physically painful" to see bad spelling and grammar smile"

You have put an errant apostrophe into the plural word "apostrophes".

Good job her DD wasn't looking

In my opinion there's a lot of truth in the phrase "Those who can't do, teach."

I've no doubt you do. I'm also fairly sure my other opinions of you will at the least, have my posts deleted with a reminder to the guidelines.

There's a high chance I'm better educated than you, better informed than you and have a wealth more experience than you. Based on this thread, I think I'm a much nicer person than you are.

I wish we were having this conversation face to face, in my office, in my school where I have the pleasure of educating many adults as well as children.

And that's before we get onto the political leanings of most teachers.

Yes, commies the lot of 'em. Shoot the fuckers, I say.

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But it's like she cannot help herself but correct. She says it's "physically painful" to see bad spelling and grammar

She sounds fucking awesome. I, very hypocritically, am a terrible speller but get physically itchy when I see 'fewer' and 'less' used incorrectly.

In my opinion there's a lot of truth in the phrase "Those who can't do, teach."

I've no doubt you do. I'm also fairly sure my other opinions of you will at the least, have my posts deleted with a reminder to the guidelines.

There's a high chance I'm better educated than you, better informed than you and have a wealth more experience than you. Based on this thread, I think I'm a much nicer person than you are.

I wish we were having this conversation face to face, in my office, in my school where I have the pleasure of educating many adults as well as children.

And that's before we get onto the political leanings of most teachers.

Yes, commies the lot of 'em. Shoot the fuckers, I say.

deydodo

But it's like she cannot help herself but correct. She says it's "physically painful" to see bad spelling and grammar

She sounds fucking awesome. I, very hypocritically, am a terrible speller but get physically itchy when I see 'fewer' and 'less' used incorrectly.

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Some seriously disturbed teacher hater on this thread.

Gosh what a lot of vitriol!

I remember correcting the teacher once or twice. Politely but probably not super tactfully (much like your DS).

I was right, and I didn't get any punishment. But it didn't exactly win me the teacher's affections.

It's a very difficult lesson to learn, especially for a bright child - that you can be right, but it's still better to stay quiet sometimes. I am still learning it

Teacher shouldn't have punished. Your DS should probably have kept quiet and maybe mentioned it privately at the end of the lesson. As I say, a hard thing to learn.

You have put an errant apostrophe into the plural word "apostrophes".

Sometimes I do it to troll her , but she knows I'm doing it now.

I'd like to know what Rainmaker1 does for a living and what kind of professional feedback she gets.

Anything else I want to say to challenge her appalling comments would have me deleted and probably banned.