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To be wary of all threads on Mumsnet now regarding Daily Mail?

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Mindtrope · 12/01/2017 07:39

I do appreciate this is an open forum and no one should be posting personal or identifying details as this can be read by the whole world.
But Daily Mail are now starting controversial threads with the sole intention of trying to start a bun fight and using the gleaned fodder.
The recent SAHM thread is a case in point.
First time poster, goady question, and bingo once the inevitable arguments start it appears in the DM within 24 hours.

And yet Mumsnet comes down on anyone troll accusing.
What;s the answer?

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BakeOffBiscuits · 12/01/2017 08:28

They aparently don't lift the threads which are sensitive or people are seeking support so really, who gives a shit

Absolutely untrue.

Just before Xmas there was a highly identifying thread published in the DM about a very abusive H. The OP did come back and got the thread deleted but she was very angry and upset.

BakeOffBiscuits · 12/01/2017 08:29

"It's a public forum ffs, of course you should be wary of everything you post."

So MNHQ should get rid of the Relationship section then?

DownWithThatSort0fThing · 12/01/2017 08:30

I wonder which members of MN are members of the illuminati

ailPartout · 12/01/2017 08:34

The OP did come back and got the thread deleted but she was very angry and upset.

I'm sorry that happened to her but I think she was foolish for posting something on a public forum (not even membership is required) she didn't want read by strangers.

As I mentioned in my first post, it points to a worrying lack of understand of the internet. The thread, I can assure you, will still be available (google cache or others).

I also understand that journalism is changing / has changed. I think reporting on an interesting thread is journalism. Not as hard hitting as some, obviously, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

It's just evident that the daily mail is the most widely read site by MN users

I've often assumed this to be true. I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning!

Manumission · 12/01/2017 08:40

Why does moaning about something cheeky show "lack of understanding of the Internet"?

There's lots of things the DM (and others) do that's worth criticising. Criticising doesn't mean you're naive.

PinkCrystal · 12/01/2017 08:43

I don't understand journos trolling boards. It makes for a shit story. How do they know we are who we say we are? Without a name and a face it isn't a proper story. It's so weird. 'Bongo said that.....' just seems very odd to me! Anyone could make up anything

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 12/01/2017 08:45

Oh and this "add daily mail are shit to your name and they won't publish it"
Are you really that stupid?

DailyMailJorno · 12/01/2017 08:50

I don't understand Jornos trolling boards either.

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 12/01/2017 08:51

They don't care who you are. They care that there's 20 pages worth of opinions on the playground mafia, or sahm/would or some hilarious non story about sexual mishaps. Whereas once upon a time they'd have to go out on the streets to gauge opinions on stuff all they have to do now is come on here.

And it clearly works because it's creates clicks, this creating money.

Clandestino · 12/01/2017 08:54

The best thing probably would be simply not to answer to goady threads.
The one about the SAHMs was so obviously goady, it hurt. Ignore or simply say it's goady as fuck and move away. It was glaringly obvious the OP just wanted to start a bun fight and watch from the side.
If there are others where you feel uncomfortable about, don't respond. There are trolls, who are masters on writing those threads but I can't see them being Daily Fail journos, those are mostly from the most moronic material.
Or have fun on their expense if you see that the OP is turning the thread into some weird story and losing the plot.

Sparklingbrook · 12/01/2017 08:54

So MNHQ should get rid of the Relationship section then?

People that post in that section should remember that it's a public forum.

Trills · 12/01/2017 08:54

I believe them to be starting threads.

I wouldn't be surprised.

I expect most of this thread will be people who read your OP and took it to be a general complaining about thread-lifting post, not that specific point.

HappydaysArehere · 12/01/2017 08:55

Don't buy the Mail and your problems are over.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 12/01/2017 08:55

Report suspected trolls

Simple.

Yoarchie · 12/01/2017 08:56

I guess stuff that happens on the freely accessible internet actually legitimately qualifies as news in 2017. However, I do think that some of the threads lifted - eg the one about the woman whose husband cheated and left over the Christmas period leaving her distraught and in need of support - actually exposes the person who lifted it as a complete bottom feeder. Maybe they deserve the same to happen to them to see how it feels.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 12/01/2017 08:58

Don't buy the Mail and your problems are over.

And this ^^

This is one of the oddest things about MN - everyone purports to hate the DM but yet they still know what is going on on their website
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HystericalWoman · 12/01/2017 09:00

Just because you don't agree with a post - does NOT make it goady.

I don't like eating Pizza for example, but I do not march into the local Pizza shop and accuse them of trying to Goad me by their very existence.

This is the mentatlity of most posters who use the 'G'word, they tend to try and make everything about them are strangely offended that others have a different point of view

It is such an short sighted attitude to have - to label people as 'goady' for simply stating a different view point as you

No one is forced to respond to threads - it is ALWAYS the responses to threads that create the drama, not the original question at all!

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 12/01/2017 09:01

actually exposes the person who lifted it as a complete bottom feeder.

This is not something new though. There has always been a breed of journalist that will do anything for a story. How people can still be surprised by this after the whole news hacking debacle is beyond me.

ailPartout · 12/01/2017 09:03

Why does moaning about something cheeky show "lack of understanding of the Internet"?

Because things like this happen:

Just before Xmas there was a highly identifying thread published in the DM about a very abusive H. The OP did come back and got the thread deleted but she was very angry and upset.

The moaning is strange, unreasonable or shows a lack of understanding as anyone who is moaning surely feels that publishing on one IP is entirely different to it being reported on another one.

I don't know why reporting on online discussions is cheeky either. If someone was being misquoted, libelled, quoted out of context or otherwise misrepresented I'd completely understand their grievance. As it is, I've no idea what the issue people are criticising is.

HalfaFishFingerAndTwoPeas · 12/01/2017 09:12

Tbh I find the threads discussing how morally wrong the daily mail are, just as annoying.

Gottagetmoving · 12/01/2017 09:21

MN is an open and public forum. Of course newspapers would be interested in what people are saying and will do an article on anything they think will sell papers or be of interest.
Doesn't bother me at all what they publish from forums like this. They report Tweets people have made...It is not just mumsnet.
I have no idea why anyone would be outraged or annoyed about it.

c3pu · 12/01/2017 09:39

So MNHQ should get rid of the Relationship section then?

Of course not, but people should be wary of what they post there (and in all public forums) because it is available publicly!!

neonrainbow · 12/01/2017 09:40

I have no idea what threads they lift anyway cos i don't read the daily mail. Genuinely i mean, not just those people who claim not to read it and yet somehow know what stories they run.

WannaBe · 12/01/2017 09:43

"So MNHQ should get rid of the Relationship section then?" no, people posting on the relationships board need to realise that they're posting on a public forum and that once you post your identifiable information on a public forum it is there for anyone to read. Hardly rocket science is it? .

WannaBe · 12/01/2017 09:47

", with respect, that's the daftest advice/brush off ive heard since "if you don't what the boys to chase you for kiss chase, stand still"" how is it? The only reason I know that the Daily Mail apparently lift threads from here is because of the number of daily mail readers who come on here to wine about it. And the reality is that if you don't want your private business to become public knowledge then don't post it on the internet, regardless of which site it is you're posting on. MN is no less public than the Daily Mail. People need to get past this illusion that it's a safe space to post on - it isn't and never has been, and fwiw these arguments have been going on for years and years, every time someone posts something from MN elsewhere the hysterical "but people will be identified when they came here to post anonymously," masses emerge to complain about something which has never existed.

Honestly, the people who go on about identifiable posts putting people at risk yada yada yada really don't come across as very inteligent.

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