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to think you should ignore people having a go at you if you are the President Elect of the USA

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amispartacus · 09/01/2017 21:56

Rather than having a go at them on Twitter and describing them as second rate actresses. Hmm

Otherwise some people might just think you're a bit sensitive.

If that's how he's going to react when people call him out on things, he's going to have a very long 4 years in the White House

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squoosh · 11/01/2017 09:53

I'm sure this is just beginning. For as long as he's in the Whitehouse there'll be a drip drip of leaked dossiers from his Russian 'friends'.

BertrandRussell · 11/01/2017 10:03

But it won't make any difference. Trump supporters either won't believe it or will just think it makes him "one hell of a guy".

BertrandRussell · 11/01/2017 10:04

Ironically, they are holding information about him that would have brought down an old fashioned "elite" leader. But it won't touch him...........

Megatherium · 11/01/2017 10:06

The problem is that Trump is such an easy target for set-ups like this: he's so sleazy that the Russians knew he would fall for it, and so stupid that it didn't occur to him it could be a sting. And if he gets past this one, it will happen again and again and the reality is that the presidency will become a laughing stock. Other world leaders are going to have to think about whether they seriously want to be associated with him - there's a distinct yuk factor in shaking the hand of a man with a predilection for pussy grabbing and golden showers.

Lweji · 11/01/2017 10:07

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I'm not naive nor I believe in fairies.

I think it would certainly suit his new Republican "friends" to kick him out and have Pence (aka, their stooge) in the Office. It shouldn't take a huge conspiracy to get him impeached.

Are there any Republicans defending him in relation to Russia? No, Senator McCain passed the intelligence report to the FBI.

LineyReborn · 11/01/2017 11:14

So the Republicans make their move a week before the inauguration of their monster.

Twogoats · 11/01/2017 11:18

Did the pee thing allegedly happen whilst he was married?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/01/2017 11:36

and Pence really would be a nightmare come true :(

birdybirdywoofwoof · 11/01/2017 11:47

They're calling it #watersportsgate

Pence's policies are beyond despicable but he is less frightening to the planets security than the unpredictable ammoral trump.

Ratonastick · 11/01/2017 11:49

Sorry to lower the tone, but the dossier has some far more important stuff than the peeing (and as an aside, how do you deal with the "who sleeps in the wet patch" debate after that?).

There is a specific reference to DT agreeing to not make Russian activity in Ukraine an election point and to highlight doubts about NATO and their engagement in the Baltic states. Basically, if this is true (and the action of John McCain suggest that there are real concerns) you have a real life Manchurian candidate right there.

amispartacus · 11/01/2017 11:50

I like the Daily Mash

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/come-back-when-he-shags-a-dead-pig-say-jaded-brits-20170111120020

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Lweji · 11/01/2017 12:10

Lower the tone?

Definitely, I don't care what perversions Trump has done, unless they were illegal, the main point is definitely whether he's under Putin's thumb or not.

The problem is that regardless of intelligence reports he's not looking clean and he's not helping himself. Possibly with a little help by his Republican "advisors".
The more he shifts blame from Russia to whatever, the more guilty he looks.

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome · 11/01/2017 12:18

Sorry, I know this may sound wide-eyed and stupid and ever so slightly off-topic but I didn't want to start another Trump thread of my own... but on the basis of EVERYTHING this man keeps saying and doing and tweeting, I am literally baffled as to how he is going to be sworn in as president next week.

I'm not as up with the American media as I should be but are any of the papers/columnists there calling for a stop to this madness?

And it honestly seems like madness. I know he 'won' the election (ha!) and millions of people voted for him but SURELY in the light of the hacking stuff, somebody somewhere should be trying to put a halt to it? Probably that can't even be done? I know there's a big thing about the peaceful transfer of power being one of the things the US system prides itself on but what's happened these past couple of weeks surely should make an exception? Not saying he can be stopped from becoming President right now but is the question being asked?

More to the point, I haven't seen or read anything about the opinions of the people who voted for him. Are they all just cheering him on?! I don't know many Americans (certainly none who voted for him) but aren't any of them popping up to say they're a tiny bit uncertain about the way they voted now that it's been pretty clearly shown the result was affected by Russian hacking?

These are all genuine questions, btw, I know they might sound a bit stupid but I'm sitting here day after day completely astounded that the juggernaut is rolling on even in the wake of the endless crap that keeps coming out...

Oh, and on a side note, wtf is DT doing with all these inane tweets respsonding to anything he doesn't like??? He sounds exactly like my 3 yo. I tell her she must be tired, she'll yell at me 'I'M NOT TIRED!!!!' (while sobbing with tiredness) because she's a 3 year old and she thinks because she says something (loud enough) it must be true. Just tweeting 'FAKE NEWS, PEOPLE' or whatever the fuck it is, every time someone prints something you don't like hearing... that's the hallmark of a tyrannical overtired pre-schooler, not a man who's about to become President. And the Meryl Streep stuff (basically, calling her a big poo-poo head when she said something he didn't like) is the same. Embarrassing.

More worryingly, there is clearly nobody around him who is able to tell him not to do this stuff.

It appalls me.

birdybirdywoofwoof · 11/01/2017 12:21

Oh absolutely- it looks like he is a Russian stooge (no one says stooge anymore tho) and that is massive.

But- Is there enough there to be able to get him out? And if they do, how will his galvanised supporters react?

birdybirdywoofwoof · 11/01/2017 12:25

if you want to know the mindset of some trump supporters go on Facebook.
Go to trending (upper right) click, say, Charlotte church. Scroll down and you can find a gazillion loons.

Magicpaintbrush · 11/01/2017 12:26

Totally agree with the OP, that was also my first thought - what a childish unprofessional response from the President Elect. Pathetic. Just rise above it and get on with your job instead of resorting to playground name calling.

MadisonAvenue · 11/01/2017 12:26

More to the point, I haven't seen or read anything about the opinions of the people who voted for him. Are they all just cheering him on?! I don't know many Americans (certainly none who voted for him) but aren't any of them popping up to say they're a tiny bit uncertain about the way they voted now that it's been pretty clearly shown the result was affected by Russian hacking?

I have quite a few American family members and friends on Facebook who voted for him and still continue to show him a huge amount of support.

Magicpaintbrush · 11/01/2017 12:29

If over time he is proved to be unfit for office can they kick him out? (Was Nixon kicked out or did he resign - there is no way Trump would ever resign with an ego and mouth almighty like he has)>

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCome · 11/01/2017 12:30

Madison - ah - intriguing - what is the mindset of your family members, do you think? Do they just take what he says at face value and think there is no truth to the Russia stuff? Or do they think maybe there is truth to it but they don't care that much/think Hillary was the bigger crook?

Really horribly fascinated, because I sort of vaguely hoped there would be a groundswell of regret, the way some people here regretted voting Leave when it actualy happened, iyswim?

birdybirdywoofwoof · 11/01/2017 12:32

My observation is they don't care, they like him, they actually think he's 'one of them.'

shovetheholly · 11/01/2017 12:32

Nixon was impeached, then thrown out when convicted. The same could happen to Trump when in office, if he commits 'high crimes and misdemeanous'. How that is defined, however, I do not know!

roseshippy · 11/01/2017 12:34

So do we actually believe that he paid someone to piss on a bed he was sleeping in? And because Obama previously slept there some years previously?

Sounds like bollocks to me.

The Cameron pig thing was made up too. It was based on some political theory about making up something so extreme that to even deny it makes you sound bad. 'No I did not fuck a pig' versus keeping silent about the same.

Lweji · 11/01/2017 12:34

SomeDayMyPrinceMightCom

Also, go to the Politics board here on MN and read a little of the Trump threads. I don't know if his US voters are all like that but it's Shock Hmm Confused

InformalRoman · 11/01/2017 12:34

Ratonastick agree that the more salacious aspects of the document are distractions to the real meat of the allegations - that Trump and his team have been colliding with the Russians for years.

Twogoats the peeing thing in Moscow is alleged to have taken place in 2013. Trips to St Petersburg from around 2008 onwards based on comments by Donald Jr but not sure, might be earlier (Trump started to struggle to raise investment in the 1990s onwards).

originalmavis · 11/01/2017 12:35

Arf. 'soft sensuality' and 'poetic' for the inauguration shindig. Hmmmmm. Not about A Lister's apparently. It's about 'the people'.

I'm imagining DSs school talent show with Milena handing out the orange squash at interval.