To push super market trolley home

[ghostspirit]

I was thinking about going shopping and then pushing the supermarket trolley back to my house. It would be easyer than over loading the pram. But thenot now I have written it it seems it feels I am bu. I am aren't I?

I wouldn't even though our local shop is close by, I'd be scundered walking home!

If you have blue fingers carrying heavy bags one solution our old childminder had was getting a couple of small lengths of pipe (from her plumber mate but positive you could pick up some from local builders yard) Slice them length ways and put the plastic bag handles in through (she sandpapered hers at either end to avoid chafing/cutting the handles) and no blue fingers.

Btw though, I use a wheelchair. I promise you that streets are bad enough for them, never mind trolley wheels. Good luck to you if you want to fight a trolley all the way home!!

Don't lower your standards op, your pride and reputation will be in tatters!

I have a wheeled shopping trolley thing like an old lady.All my friends say I look a div with it, and I probably do.saves my hands falling off carrying the shop home though.
Plus I put all my stuff in it at festivals-it's excellent for the long walk from car park to campsite and everyone is secretly envious as they struggle along with their much cooler receptacles. (Probably 😁).

Why thank you Worra!

It's not theft or stealing as there is no intention to permanently deprive.

I don't why people are interpreting that as saying it's fine though. Unless they think theft is literally the only wrong that there is?!

I did this once at homebase when I'd bought a few heavy items. I asked the manager for permission and he asked for a £5 deposit, which was fine. I got the money back when I returned the trolley later on.

So can I borrow something else from a shop and say that I will return it? Maybe a necklace or something. How can you prove that you intend to return it if you are caught walking home with the trolley?

The shops don't know who will return them or not and the amount I see dumped and report is stupid. It's a very chavvy look to push a shopping trolley home.

There's a Lamborghini in my city that I see regularly. I'm borrowing it! Since I intend to return it it's not theft, right?

Oh my God you saw me on Christmas eve didn't you! And now you are craftily outing me here in my most favourite of places! Yes it is beyond acceptable and yes I was dying a death when we got to our street and begging the dcs to use inside, inside, INSIDE voices only but in my defence the buses had stopped early and a taxi would've cost double and there was no way we could've carried all that home! Also, the trolley attendant was not bothered so long as I took it back and even the police didn't stop when they cruised past and waved to the kids so really the only issue was the final nail in the coffin of my ego and the exciting thought that I can still surprise myself at 42!

Zc1 I'm sorry I did not mean to out you. I did not think it would notice if I said it about myself.

Oh and I like your pj's hope they kept you warm in waitrose

You!

To be convicted of theft it has to be proved that you intended to keep the appropriated property. So if you're caught heading back towards the supermarket with it you're unlikely to be charged!

The wheels will probably lock, but if not there is nothing wrong with taking the trolley home. Trolleys for a pound are pretty good value considering we have to pay 5p for a bag now thanks to the fucking Liberal Democrats who will never, ever get close to being elected again after this debacle.

To be convicted of theft it has to be proved that you intended to keep the appropriated property. So if you're caught heading back towards the supermarket with it you're unlikely to be charged!

But what about when you are heading away from the supermarket? Hey, maybe the £1 would convince them

Are you sure there needs to be proof you intend to keep the stuff, or is it probability? How would you get proof? I mean, you could take out a trolley full of booze and if you get caught there would be no proof you intended to keep it unless you wrote in your diary: "Steal from Aldi and keep the stuff".

Theft is ‘appropriating property belonging to another with intention to permanently deprive’, Section 1, Theft Act 1976. The prosecution has to prove that the defendant took (appropriated) the trolley, that the trolley is ‘property’ (it’s a tangible thing), that it belonged to another (if it has the supermarket’s name on it then that’s easy)

Proof of intent is for a jury or magistrate to decide on the evidence. If you’re caught heading in the direction of the supermarket owning the trolley, it’s probably unlikely that the prosecution would be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt (the standard of proof required for a criminal charge) that you intended to keep the trolley (permanently deprive the supermarket of their property). If you’re caught going home with it, there’s probably more of an argument but I don’t see how you could actually prove that the thief intended to keep it permanently. Who’s to know what’s in the thief’s mind unless they plead guilty?

It’s a long time since I had that legal training (Legal Executive Part 1, Year 1) but I think that definition is still what the law says.

You can buy supermarket trolleys if you are too cool for a shopping trolley.

www.abis-uk.com/shopping-trolley-100-litres-capacity?gclid=CL_irNPpuNECFQoTGwodPTMMRQ

The thief doesn't have to prove anything, the prosecution has to do all that, beyond reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt is what the jury or magistrate decides what it is.

This is how I think < no law experience at all>

Op can proof she shops regularly in the supermarket over a period of months maybe years, it highly likely she will shop there again as bank statement and receipt show there is a regular pattern.

Taking that view op will return to the shop again and wouldn't permanently deprive the store of saiid trolley.

It's not stealing, but I wouldn't fancy pushing a supermarket trolley home, it bad enough around the supermarket.

At uni we used to take a wheely suitcase to the supermarket, and use that to cart everything home. Works well

I never done it in the end. I was put of by the comment about the trolley being hard to push.

I love that after all the moralising on this thread about theft / looking 'chavvy'/ laziness, this is what put you off.

I was wondering how you'd manage a shopping trolley and a pushchair at the same time.

Baby in sling

koala I see loads of people doing odd thinns round here I would just blend in. I have no morals