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AIBU?

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To think the nurses shouldn't have spoken in a different language in front of me?

485 replies

ColouringTheBrain · 04/01/2017 18:56

If I start by saying I think our NHS staff do a great job Smile I'm not looking to be flamed, I genuinely want to know if I'm BU.

I had to go to the hospital today, the nurse that initially dealt with me was kind and gentle, also in the room was a colleague of hers ( another nurse). The nurse took my bloods, then went to get another machine, it was then that the two nurses started talking to each other in a different language ( I'm not trying to be vague, I just haven't got a clue what language it was). It made me feel really uncomfortable as it was directly in front of me, whether they were talking about me, or what's on TV, or other members of staff I feel is irrelevant, I felt like they shouldn't be doing it in front of a patient. Obviously I didn't say anything, I wasn't feeling the best anyway, but I also felt slightly intimidated I suppose.

AIBU, or should I just accept it as part of the care?

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SuperRainbows · 05/01/2017 00:01

I did my PGCE in Wales. The course was for English students and taught entirely in English, although most of the lecturers were bilingual.
Before I get flamed, I love Wales, love the Welsh language and would love to live there!
However, I remember feeling very uncomfortable during an art lesson, when two lecturers stood behind me and discussed my work at great length in Welsh, without subsequent translation.

Valentine2 · 05/01/2017 00:03

Oh come off your moral compass. Hmm i don't think OP said anywhere that there was some serious health concern she had? People working in crippling NHS conditions thousands of miles from their homes in a foreign country (and yes I have worked in foreign countries in slightly similar settings too so know how it can feel sometimes!) say a couple sentences in front of you and should be disciplined? Kindly go get your hands on some banker/politicians etc whose actions directly or indirectly are pushing nhs to hire non local staff in such important and critical places. this was not for you op.i don't know your whole situation and I haven't read the full thread

glitterazi · 05/01/2017 00:03

Not read the entire thread, but anyone speaking in front of others whilst deliberately excluding those they are more than likely talking about is beyond rude.

FriendofBill · 05/01/2017 00:05

Please complain OP.
YANBU

Newmanwannabe · 05/01/2017 00:07

YANBU. I think it's rude. I think it's rude when they do it in the staff room too.

venusinscorpio · 05/01/2017 00:14

Bunnyfuller, the point you appear not to get is that they aren't demonstrating their care for the OP by excluding her when they are supposed to be attending to her as a patient. Quite the opposite. This is not how care is supposed to be given. Read what all the healthcare professionals have said.

Their personal shit can wait. If the speech concerns the patient it should be in a language she can understand. It's extremely rude, dismissive and unprofessional. And yes, I speak 4 languages.

Agree with pp who said some people just like to be contrary for the sake of it. At least the HCPs on the thread understand the responsibility they have to patients.

Draylon · 05/01/2017 00:21

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user1480946351 · 05/01/2017 00:24

Can you imagine that complaint? " Forrin nurses spoke a different language in front of me, so ruuuude!!"
What do you expect the reply to be, exactly?

venusinscorpio · 05/01/2017 00:25

It's a perfectly reasonable complaint. They shouldn't be doing it.

VikingChallenger · 05/01/2017 00:25

YANBU - rude and unprofessional, can't believe anyone thinks otherwise Shock

Draylon · 05/01/2017 00:26

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venusinscorpio · 05/01/2017 00:27

You might not have a problem with it, other people do. It's not all about you.

Bunnyfuller · 05/01/2017 00:28

Would it have been ok if they chatted randomly in English?

venusinscorpio · 05/01/2017 00:29

Read what the HCPs on the thread have said. This sort of thing is frowned on, it's not patient centred care and therefore the OP is perfectly within her rights to complain if she is made to feel uncomfortable.

venusinscorpio · 05/01/2017 00:29

No.

user1480946351 · 05/01/2017 00:29

It's a perfectly reasonable complaint. They shouldn't be doing it

In your opinion. Doesn't mean anyone will care what you think.

Just because some people have a problem with something, it doesn't mean that thing is wrong. I know of patients who have complained about having foreign nurses/doctors at all, no matter what language they speak. Their issue isn't a legitimate one, just because they have it.

limitedperiodonly · 05/01/2017 00:30

Can you imagine that complaint? " Forrin nurses spoke a different language in front of me, so ruuuude!!" What do you expect the reply to be, exactly?

I expect many people would treat it as flippantly as you user1480946351. But many of us believe that this is a legitimate cause for concern.

Draylon · 05/01/2017 00:30

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venusinscorpio · 05/01/2017 00:31

As someone else said, a patient is not a machine on a production line. This is not good care or centring patients.

zoemaguire · 05/01/2017 00:31

I'm mother tongue fluent in two languages and speak another two well. I'd go so far as to say the opposite of what a lot of people on this thread have assumed, that feeling uncomfortable with this is due to bring monolingual. On the contrary, being brought up speaking several languages it was always impressed on me that it is the height of rudeness to exclude people by speaking in a language that isn't theirs.

I used to get lifts home from school with a family who would chatter away in Dutch. They spoke perfect English, but chose not to let me join in conversations. I remember thinking even aged 7 or 8, and living in a highly multilingual environment, how bloody rude they were being.

Incidentally, it is surprising in such situations how often people ARE talking about you. Especially Germans in my experience!!! I've three times had German people talk about me in German while sitting in the same room as me,wrongly assuming I can't understand. I always want to say to them 'wtf, maybe the English have a reputation for not speaking other languages, but it's quite a leap from there to assuming nobody in the UK speaks German at all, surely?!'

limitedperiodonly · 05/01/2017 00:31

Doesn't mean anyone will care what you think.

That's what's worrying

Bunnyfuller · 05/01/2017 00:32

Gonna be a lot of HCP being disciplined for chatting then, if it's not OK in any language......

Draylon · 05/01/2017 00:32

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user1480946351 · 05/01/2017 00:32

That's what's worrying

Or not, alternatively.

Draylon · 05/01/2017 00:34

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