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Christmas Card saga...

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SparkyStar84 · 03/01/2017 02:35

Well maybe not quite a saga, but hopefully you'll understand. It's my first post here too, just getting to grips with everything.

Anyway...

I was looking through all the cards we'd received, the cards from school for the children, those sent by relatives. I was shocked to find on one everyone's name but mine was included.

My DC has a friend, they're really close, play together, do extra curricular activities together, they're inseparable.

Arelative picks up DC from school and DS and his friend walk home from school, whilst the adults natter to and from school.

The friends Mother is also quite friendly with DH, they text each other a fair bit.

The card was signed by the whole family, pets, everyone bar the spiders hiding in their webs. But my name was excluded.

It's my relative who picks the DC up from school, so they're well aware who I am and that I exist.

AIBU unreasonable to be a bit peeved at being missed off the card, when it was signed from the 'whole' family, pets included.

DH said he might have missed my name off the card he sent, he couldn't remember whether he sent it to the whole family or just the Mother and child. They even swapped gifts.

I know DH isn't all that complimentary about me, as he never really has been. He always finds fault no matter what.

Is that an excuse to exclude me from the card.

I know it's trivial when world events are pretty horrid, but it left me a mix of being upset and annoyed. I thought it was rather rude. All my friends included DH on their cards, without question really.

So AIBU to think the woman was being rather rude? Considering my relative got a card and present, as did DH & DC. But it was like I don't exist which quite upset me.

Family politics and the nature of the relative, means that it's hit or miss if they have a good/bad word to say about you. I know DH will definitely have been negative about me. We are told not to judge a book by its cover, but it looks like this woman has and is judging me on the views of others.

I add again I know if's trivial, but it's left me feeling quite hurt. DH doesn't seem keen on me trying to strike up a friendship with her, but regardless, I can't see any valid reasons why my name was negated.

Happy New Year to you all, wishing you a marvellous 2017.

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smartiecake · 03/01/2017 09:18

Yep agree with everyone here.
I would imagine he is having some form of relationship with that woman. Your biggest problem is that you describe your husband as chauvinistic and say you are told you can't be included in stuff and now your children are speaking to you in the same way.
Sounds like he has all the control and now the children are behaving in the same way. I think you need to dig and find out what's going on, not let him or the kids have the control and look at your long term future and how best to help your children become well balanced adults.

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GlitteryFluff · 03/01/2017 09:20

I agree card is least of your worries.
The talking negatively about you to her is not ok, the 'I'm not allowed friends then?', texting etc is what is shocking.

Reckon he's told her you've broken up so she didn't put your name in and he can flirt and make a move on her?

Is she single? I may have missed it in the op?

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blitheringbuzzards1234 · 03/01/2017 09:22

I hate to speculate in a negative way BUT this doesn't sound like a good relationship. If you 'can't live with each other but can't live without each other' which I'm guessing is the gist of the U2 song (not being familiar with their music) then I wonder why you tolerate it.
Of course he's 'allowed his friends' but are you allowed yours? this sounds like a euphemism for a secret lover.
Your marriage may not be hugely sad - he doesn't beat you up, drink like a fish or bet all the housekeeping money on the gee-gees, etc, but it doesn't sound very happy either. I don't think I could put up with it.

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Inertia · 03/01/2017 09:30

It sounds as though your husband has led this friend to believe you are separated.

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SpookyPotato · 03/01/2017 09:33

Sorry OP but your relationship sounds awful. You're questioning yourself when you haven't done anything wrong, you're just being treated like shit. The whole thing with the woman sounds weird.

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JorahsMissus · 03/01/2017 09:36

The fact that your eldest is now treating you the same way makes me really sad for you. My sister lives with an abusive partner (we've spent years helping her leave him then she goes back and leaves then back and so on...) and he has taught their eldest to treat her exactly like Dad does. It's as if he's making sure that if he's not there to keep her in line then he has his mini me doing it for him. The really shitty thing is that my nephew is quite a good kid in other ways but thinks his Dad is the bees knees even though I know for a fact he's heard and seen the beatings but still, his Dad is his hero. I shudder to think of his future relationships.

I would get on that school run and see how she reacts when you speak to her.

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ohfourfoxache · 03/01/2017 09:38

Be on your guard- something isn't right here

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Naicehamshop · 03/01/2017 09:49

The card thing is not important in itself, but everything else most definitely is!

The worst bit of all is the fact that he is setting such a bad example to your dcs that they are now showing you a complete lack of respect.

WHY are you putting up with this?? Confused

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tooclosetocall · 03/01/2017 09:51

sticking up for me with other people is one of the most basic expectations I have of my partner. If he didn't, if he let them criticise me unfairly, never mind criticising me to them, that would be a massive issue of 'end of relationship' proportions

Couldn't agree more.

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Sahhhhh · 03/01/2017 09:54

He is rather chauvinistic

you were happy to marry and have children with this man? Hmm

Oh wait a minute, even though he is a chauvinist, that doesn't stop him from being a great dad

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Sahhhhh · 03/01/2017 09:56

On that note I keep telling DH, I really don't want any of them thinking it's ok to speak to anyone like that. I can't imagine the next generation of snowflakes would tolerate it

You accept it and think it is ok

It's rubbing off on the eldest a bit which is irritating, we'll set up a family activity with DC & myself, the eldest will tell me what to do without even thinking twice

So it is rubbing off on the next generation of snowflakes

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HouseworkIsASin10 · 03/01/2017 11:49

I know DH isn't all that complimentary about me, as he never really has been. He always finds fault no matter what.

Wow. He doesn't even like you. You deserve better, kick him to the kerb.

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PurpleMinionMummy · 03/01/2017 12:02

Wow. Well, if he didn't put your name in her card, she probably had no idea whether to put your name in the card she sent. If I received a card with the partners name missing I'd assume they'd split up.

The putdowns, lack of name, texting, presents and defensiveness are not good signs. You need to decide if you want to subtly pry further (can you sneak a look at his phone to see texts exchanged between them?), ask him outright but face the prospect of him lying or just not bother and leave.

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hippyhippyshake · 03/01/2017 12:05

100% he left your name off. Therefore she wouldn't put your name on the card incase it 'upset' him seeing as you are so horrible. Confused
Use this incident as the turning point in your life. Stop putting up with it. If the relationship is as indifferent as it appears then think about plans for the future without him. He sounds awful.

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MrsJamin · 03/01/2017 12:31

Op. You're not a "snowflake" if you refuse to listen to his constant putting you down. A partner should have your back, defend you to others, speak well of you in public and that is part of love. You deserve much much better, and so do your children, he is not good with them if he is such a poor role model. Very tempted to give you my first MN "LTB".

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Rachel0Greep · 03/01/2017 12:51

Not trivial at all. Unfortunately the card is the least of it. Have a long think about your marriage. The fact that your eldest is already imitating your husband in the way he treats you is not good at all.

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daisychain01 · 03/01/2017 12:59

When people excusing abuse in all forms with a "but he's good with the children" drive me bonkers. If he's treating his wife/partner like that he is NOT good with your children

Women always trot this out on MN, he can be the most hideous twat but it's ok he is great with the children hmm

YY and the chestnut of "he beats me up, shags other women, keeps his finances separate ....[ Long list of arseholery] but he's a lovely genuine person. How the chuff does that work????

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daisychain01 · 03/01/2017 13:04

OP - the minute I read your remark about

I know DH isn't all that complimentary about me, as he never really has been. He always finds fault no matter what

I had to do a double-take and reread your OP because I couldn't believe the most glaringly obvious thing, seems to have passed you by at 100,000 feet.

Your DH is vile - and sinister in how he dismisses and minimises your needs. You do need to recognise this is the inescapable problem

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Temporaryname137 · 03/01/2017 13:07

this would set my spidey senses tingling:

"DH doesn't seem keen on me trying to strike up a friendship with her" - why not? Is that because she might repeat things he's said; because he doesn't want you sharing his friends like a proper couple should; or because he likes her a bit too much?

I think you need to talk to him, OP. Sorry he is being a twat.

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MrsJamin · 03/01/2017 16:27

Are you OK, OP? This must all be a bit hard to read when all you were asking about was a Christmas card.

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