to not buy DH an ice cream because--Richard Hammond-- people might think he's gay

[amispartacus]

Maybe it's scripted.
Maybe not.

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/dec/27/richard-hammond-ice-cream-gay-the-grand-tour

Surprised at Hammond. Normally it would be Clarkson. Very surprised James May is on the show. He comes across as a decent guy.

Still, I suppose it will be defended as banter.

People who watch TGT expect that sort of presenting. They enjoy it.

Don't watch it if offends you.

Whoever makes Magnums won't be pleased. It will be interesting to see if they lose sales.

Richard Hammond for example, is a twat. He tubes up JC's arse trying to be like him. Stewart Lee's standup about him was spot on.

Ice cream is gay in the old fashioned sense, bright, jolly, cheery colours.

Omg! Of course it was just banter!

I love that show! And all of them. Yes they are utter pollock but so what?!

Why do people take everything so damned personally now? Don't like it? Don't watch it!

People are too fucking sensitive now! Get over it!

He won't mind being called Bigot Hammond, then. Just a joke.

Anybody who says that people who don't like it just shouldn't watch it (like that is a solution) clearly doesn't have any concept of how prejudice and bigotry work. It doesn't matter whether I watch it or not, if the show itself legitimises or encourages bigotry against a section of society by others in society who do watch it.

Have always disliked Clarkson, but am a bit surprised by Hammond for doing this. He seemed like a decent bloke but this makes him look like an unfunny prat.

Can't breath without offending anyone these days! When did everyone become so bloody precious?

He won't mind being called Bigot Hammond, then.

Yep, he'll love it

"Ice cream is gay in the old fashioned sense, bright, jolly, cheery colours"

Oh- so that's what he meant! Thatks for explaining.......

Fucking eejit.

He's becoming Clarkson's mini-me.

Banter is usually funny, yes?
How is saying only gay blokes eat ice cream funny?

I'm just not getting it. Hammond seems to be like an ugly caricature of what he once was which was the normallish voice of reason. In this series he seems overcome with wee man syndrome so needs to big himself up.

Like fuck is it banter.

My son hasn't come out to certain family members because of "banter"

Holding hands with a child of the same sex when you're a toddler will make you gay.

Standing with your hands on your hips will make you gay.

I'm sure they'd be only too pleased to spout this shite too.

But it's just banter, eh.

It's insulting, it's making being gay an insult, when it's not. And it's normalising bullying.

Fuck off with your "being precious" and finding things offensive. When your child is too afraid to be themselves in front of people who should accept them for who they are then maybe you'll realise why this shit should be stopped.

All the posters bemoaning how "pc" has gorn mad.

Gay people, brown people, disabled people can laugh at themselves. I am many minorities and can make and laugh at jokes about myself all the time. But there's a massive massive difference between a group of my gay friends poking fun at ourselves and RH, a hetero man going onto a well-watched show continuing to throw around worn out myths about homosexuality. Gay jokes like that aren't bringing anything new to the table, they're certainly not pushing boundaries - it's just yet another middle aged straight man making a negative joke about how gay men being lesser. There's no need for it and we don't need tougher skin - we need men like RH to do better.

People who watch TGT expect that sort of presenting. They enjoy it.
Don't watch it if offends you

Interesting irony.
So, not all viewers like it or expect it, then.
I don't.

And I'm certainly not going to pay to watch them being offensive twats.
You're giving a very low image of their viewers and yourself there.

Can't breath without offending anyone these days

Only if you're racist, misogynist, homophobic, disablist, etc. Are you?

As well as gay ice cream, this week featured knob jokes, condoms and branded jumpers which hilariously spelled penis - yes they're even recycling that old tat. What is funny is a lot of people who love this mock shows like TOWIE and Made in Chelsea, but they all feature people who can't act following rubbish scripts.

Can't breath without offending anyone these days

It's not so much being offended - but more just depressing that such 'humour' and attitudes are being used as part of a script - especially if it's being used to generate publicity. The audience reaction is depressing - I doubt there would be much laughing if it had been a racist joke.

It's 2016. Not the 1950s.

laidbackmummy, Is it really "too fucking sensitive" to dislike the portrayal of homosexuality as something to be ashamed of, so that you should avoid doing anything at all which others might construe as being conduct typical of gay people? Do you think it's OK that Hammond and others are portraying that sort of attitude as normal?

I have not seen it but it sounds bizarre.

Of course it was scripted but from the way it is described they weren't portraying that sort of attitude as normal; they were portraying a peculiarity of Hammond's which the other 2 queried. I rarely watched the old Top Gear but was sure I had seen pictures of Clarkson eating ice cream cones. And Google found one - not photoshopped.

So what was the point of making a not funny joke about a stereotype that doesn't exist? Are they trying to create a new stereotype or just make fun of Hammond? If the latter there are countless better ways to do it.

Clarkson eating an ice-cream. So what was the point of including this in the script?

The non joke was just odd.
Maybe Clarkson has all "yes" people around him, no one that'll say that's a shit idea, that person Clarkson thumped was probably telling him "no", look what he got for his trouble, Clarkson got away with that didn't he.
Hammond's probably scared of Clarkson, that's the vibe I get anyway.

Hammond's probably scared of Clarkson, that's the vibe I get anyway.

The only vibe Hammond needs to worry about is the one his wife has got hidden in her knicker drawer. (Just a joke, like the ones they do on the grand tour)

However I have to thank Richard Hammond for raising this important issue.
I used to be a butch pipe smoking rugby playing chap who liked nothing more than drinking ten pints, having some fisticuffs and sexing it up with page three lovelies.

However one Sunday dinner time I bit into what I thought was a Swiss roll only to discover it was an ice cream filled Arctic roll. Obviously I spat the ice cream out as soon as I could, but the damage was done.

Overnight my life has consisted of nothing but disco dancing in a muscle vest and glittery cowboy hat, taking poppers and making catty comments.

Be warned the risk is real.

You're the script writer not Clarkson

Gil