Your thoughts

[starsorwater]

BIL aged 54 but still very much the younger son. Spent last Christmas alone. This Christmas was invited to us on 23rd argued for 21st saying flights cheaper. Was warned it you come 21st on your head be it, DDs birthday, expect visiting kids.
No problem with that, says BIL and here he is, and has been since 21st. He has brought no presents, no cards, no booze, no chocs, no clean clothes, and 3 tins of pickled herring.
The towels, shower gel etc left in his room are still pristine. He smells like a hundred old dogs. Three days down, three to go.
Your thoughts, wise mumsnetters?

I read this thread out to my son as he asked what I was reading and he suggested getting your BIL dirty, either 'accidentally' spilling something on him so he has to take off his clothes, then you can grab them, and run him a hot bath at the same time x

Be subtle.
Tell him 'get in that fucking shower, Olaf, you riffy bastard'

Is this him? If so he's a fucking legend.

Yes thats him or very very very like!

Who is that?

Van who is that?

He may be a legend, but he definitely looks grubby.

You are being v polite! I would tell him nicely to have a shower or bath. He probably thinks he smells totally fine, which is why he doesn't want to wash... but he doesn't smell fine.

I'm not all that polite. I would do this:

Me: "BIL, I think you might need a quick shower today"
BIL: "why? Do I smell?"
Me: "well, yeah, a little bit right now, but only because you haven't had a wash for a few days maybe. I'm sure you'll be fine after a shower"

Some people would say that's horribly rude, but I don't happen to.

My mum arrived here on 14th December and is yet I showered. She's thoughtfully shared with me that she's having problems with her bowels and has had to get rid of 2 pairs of pants...and has to regularly use sudocreme because her arse is 'red raw'

Wanna swap?

open a bottle of Zoflora, casually walk past, then accidentally 'trip' and spill some on him.

If it's neat he'd be a fire risk so would have to get changed and his clothes washed at least. And he'd smell better even if he declined to get washed.

This is what you do. You turn up central heating and put on immersion, raising water in taps to nearly boiling.
You say Crikey the heating is going mad, I am going to empty hot water tank unless anyone wants a bath.
BIL says actually that would be really nice.

Result and no hurt feelings.

Myghast hats off to your wonderful manners, I couldn't stick that.
Van nothing like but who is that? Please? I recognise that man from another life.

It's Peps Persson, legendary blues- and reggae musician.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peps_Persson

I met him and his gang once on a ferry they were playing and singing in the bar they were ADORABLE.

I never knew who it was. Thank you.

Seriously, you met him?!? Peps himself?
What are the chances???

I think so. I'm almost sure. On a ferry from Holyhead to Dublin, they were all in the bar singing and playing this is 15 years ago and they had everyone coming down to listen. I never forgot it and I never knew who it was.

I didn't meet him to speak to. I was just there. When I saw that photo you put up I couldn't believe it.

Sounds very possible. How awesome. Have you told BIL? I'm sure he would know of Peps.

As soon as he comes out of the BATH I will tell him, I've just found him on youtube singing Oh Boy. Can't believe it. They must have been gigging in Ireland do you think? It was a long time ago, pre dd.

This thread has gone quite surreal and magical, and I apologise, but I love it.
GOD JUL!

Tack detsamma!

Just say, do you prefer a bath or a shower at home?
Then when he says shower (or bath), say would you like one tonight or in the morning? We all like to be fresh for Christmas day.

Top marks for manoeuvring him into the bath!

Your dh should mention the hygiene thing it's his brother.