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...to feel depressed that only 7% of UK identify as Feminist?

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DioneTheDiabolist · 18/12/2016 18:30

www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/2016/01/we-are-a-nation-of-hidden-feminists/

7% of the population and just 9% of women in this country identify as feminist. I'm not saying that everyone should call themselves feminist, I care more about what people do, rather than the label they assign themselves. But I am Sad that the number is so low.

Given that most people believe in sexual equality, why do so many people not feel comfortable to call themselves feminist? And what (if anything) can we do about it?

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itsmine · 18/12/2016 22:27

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SpeakNoWords · 18/12/2016 22:32

I don't see my feminism as whining that my life is shit. I know my life is incredibly privileged, I'm very well aware of that. My feminism is about all women, and those women in the world who are most definitely not privileged in comparison to the men in their society.

birdsdestiny · 18/12/2016 22:33

They have enlightened me.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:34

Agree with speak

LouisvilleLlama · 18/12/2016 22:36

Do I believe in equality ? Yes but I'll never consider myself a feminist for many reasons:

Almost all discussions with feminists they seem to get angry

Those that don't care headbands on a baby or coloured cards I've seen described as. " just not intelligent enough to get it"

Most of the stuff I see now seems to be trivial things like being called love with very little focus on actually important things that women suffer modern day like FGM

There's a lot of hypocrisy especially concerning men:
- wanting to get rid of sayings like " run like a girl" but will still entertain " man up" and expressions like " manspreading " and " mansplaining"

  - saying that whilst it's not female exclusive but the main aim is about women it doesn't make them anti men  they use that and very similar tactics used against feminism to discourage MRA's" when surely they can focus on things men face, this isn't a one way street of course I've seen MRAs be hateful also in reality it should all be able to be peaceful and achieve their aims independently.

There's a lot of misrepresentation of facts for example the wage gap the often quoted figure is men vs women as a whole so a premier league star vs a nursery nurse, not a male nursery nurse vs female nursery nurse, sure there is a gap but it's generally minimal I once saw someone get majorly offended over less than £2 a month

Sometimes it's not even facts sometimes a well known feminist seems to have an opinion and it just gets made into a fact that you can't dispute.

Instead of equal opportunities it seems more about equal outcomes which in itself is forced is not equal.

Everything now is misogynistic a man can't just do something that upsets a woman he has to hate women. And there seems a general feeling especially on MN boards that men hate women as a whole.

I honestly think some get so entrenched in "feminism" that everything has an ulterior meaning

It's just for me I guess as a person who believes in equality It does seem anti men one rule for one, one for another I'm not pro men or women, and I know a lot of my reasons focus on men but I think it should as they are half the population and I don't believe I can consciously support one group at the expense of another, and I can't support feminists who won't denounce other feminists who openly talk about getting rid of all but 10% of men and basically treat them as slaves, it's just palmed of as a "thought experiment".

This is of course just my anecdotal evidence of what I've experienced through feminism it's not conclusive

MeetMeAtMidnight · 18/12/2016 22:42

I'm not surprised most people (feminists can be and often are men too) don't admit to identifying as feminist. I am a feminist just not a Feminist. There's a distinction. I'm not about to get involved with petty sniping about being called 'love' or 'girl' or boycott stores for having pink toys or thinking men are the root of all evil and no platforming people because they have a different point of view or agree that vaginal waste products are the equivalent of sacred essences and all PIV sex is rape. That's not what fighting for equal rights is about. The extreme activists who have hijacked the cause to further their agenda do nothing to help women in the workplace or education or healthcare because they are too busy with their vitriolic ranting about unimportant shit because the Patriarchy. They are responsible for the poor perception people have of feminism.

LouisvilleLlama · 18/12/2016 22:42

Sorry £2 a week*

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:43

I am a feminist because i cant be arsed to press the shift button

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:44
Grin

I am a feminist because autocorrect doesn't correct to Feminist

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:44

I am sometimes a femanist or femenist

I also cant be arsed with any of the punctuation buttons

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parumpapumpuuum · 18/12/2016 22:45

I refused to work part time after o had my DD. I want a career as much as my husband and I'm determined to achieve it in the basis that I shouldn't be held back because I've used my womb for the purpose for which it was intended.

Don't know if I'm feminist though. 🤔

parumpapumpuuum · 18/12/2016 22:46

Sorry for the typos Blush

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:47

Feminists dont worry about spelling mistakes parump

Fact

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:47

And yes i know my stupid machine put a capital letter in feminist

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:47

Im a fmnst wen txtin

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:48

A pharmacist beyond ? Shock

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:49

Feminists also don't worry about facts, rufus
Fact.

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:49

Well, I do moonlight as a pharmacist Wink

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:50

Or science beyond

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:50

Fact.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:50

Shit

That looks like a bad crosspost Grin

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:50

Feminists do not care about the Middle East.
Fact.

LouisvilleLlama · 18/12/2016 22:50

See this comes across as militant and the " we're better than you" the last few posts, there are people telling you why they don't identify as feminists and it appears like you're taking the piss ConfusedHmm

BeyondIBringYouGoodTidings · 18/12/2016 22:51

I think it's quite a good x post Grin
fact

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 18/12/2016 22:52

How on earth am i taking the piss?

Not sure about beyond i think she might be taking the piss out of me

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