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To still be thinking about my 3 year old's psychotic episodes last year?

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Lasagneforbreakfast · 16/12/2016 09:53

This is a long post but I hope everyone that reads it will be more aware of this horrible horrible illness and the warning signs. It can happen to anyone for no reason at all.

Last year my perfectly healthy 3 year old daughter suddenly came down with a mystery illness. She first started having unexplained seizures (some of you may remember I posted and AIBU about DH and I arguing on wether to give her medication for her "epilepsy". He wanted natural, I wanted whatever I could give her to make her better). After posting this, her symptoms quickly escalated from small quick seizures to ones that lasted for hours on end which couldn't even be stopped by a team of doctors in A&E. When finally awake she began having constant movements of her hand even while awake... it was like her hand had a life of its own. Her seizures became so bad that she had to be completely sedated and put on life support. When she woke she seemed ok but started having violent episodes where she was hitting, biting and scratching the nurses and screaming as soon as they came into the room. This alone was astonishing to us as she had always been an amazingly calm, well behaved little girl... so much I would get comments on how well behaved and smart she was while we were out.
After only a few days she became so ill she was having these "episodes" of rage continuously throughout the day and night with only 5-20mins breaks between them. She was even doing it to me and her dad and gradually lost recognition of us. She would look into the air instead of our eyes and seemed to have become locked into her own world. She no longer recognised us and spent her days and nights having the violent episodes or screaming, scared, cowering into a corner as if something was trying to get her. She would point into the air in different directions and either laugh or cry. By this time her speech had completely gone and she was not saying any words.
I remember the day I realised she could no longer understand me or follow any commands.. I was trying to give her a bath in the hospital and Was helping her take off her clothes. I told her to lift her leg up so I could take off her trousers and she just stared at me blankly. I tried several times with no response. She just looked at around the room confused as if I wasn't even there. I remember holding her in my arms and crying to the nurses that my baby couldn't understand me, that she didn't even recognise me any more.
After this her episodes got worse and by now she was self harming, biting herself all over her body and making her lips bleed. She was no longer able to get off her bed and couldn't walk or even stand up. We had to put her in nappies and she wouldn't take any food. All lines that were inserted she would rip out and the nasal tubes that were forced into her she would pull out as soon as she had and episode. She became so thin within a few weeks that she no longer looked like herself, rather like an abused, neglected and starved shell of a child. She didn't sleep at night and DH and I would take turns sleeping so we could watch her through the night. When you think of not sleeping at night, you might think she slept a few hours here and there but it was literally NO SLEEP. No 5 minute naps, NOTHING. I still can't get my head around how any human body can go through that.
No matter what medicines were given it's like nothing worked and we were bracing ourselves for her to eventually fade away.

We finally got her blood results back on the 24th December and she was diagnosed with a disease called Anti NMDA receptor encephalitis. A rare disease which can hit anyone at any time for no apparent reason. Sometimes it can be a tumor that causes the disease to kick off but sometimes the cause is never known. She was rushed to intensive care for treatment and was there for 15days.

Once awake she continued being the same but as if by a miracle she did start making tiny improvements. Every few days something would get slightly better until after 2 weeks she was only having a few episodes a day and she was able to look at us. She started walking very slowly for a few metres and she started taking soft food. She still couldn't talk but we were overjoyed at what she was able to do. We were encouraged by the doctors to take her out of the hospital for a bit to get some fresh air.. We had to take her in a speacial pushchair used for severely disabled children. I remember the looks of pity or people just plain staring at us while we walked down the road with her. I had never thought I would be in that situation in my life. I remembered the days I used to look at parents with sadness while they pushed their disabled child and I had my chubby little girl full of life skipping happily alongside me, chatting away with me and asking me a 101 questions. I wondered if I would ever be able to just see her walk normally or talk again.

Eventually she was well enough to come home. She continued getting better and on the day we came home she said "mummy, daddy" and "bus". It's been a year now and after many ups and downs she is talking almost to the same level as when she was healthy. She runs around and seems to have more energy than ever. She has some behavioural problems and is very impulsive and fidgety but anyone looking at her would never think she's been sick.

I still think so much about that time, especially now since it's been exactly a year. I lay awake at night and remember so many details and can stay there for hours reliving those days. I cry so much when I remember everything... I feel so guilty and weak having these thoughts and so much sadness seeing as she's doing so amazingly well. I've been told by everyone I speak to that I should be happy and concentrate on how she is now and be grateful that she's not worse. Which makes sense... but I don't know how to forget. I hate myself for not just being able to be happy and accept that the way she is is a million times better than how she was. I feel guilty for being sad or angry or stressed when she has tantrums out in the street and rolls around on the floor screaming and crying, when she hits or bites her siblings or me.. this is what "normal" 4 year olds do isn't it? That's what everyone says to me but I know what my little girl was like before.

Sorry for the mammoth post... I wanted to firstly get her illness out there so if anyone was ever in this situation maybe they could get diagnosed faster and also your views on how I'm feeling now a year on. Is this normal? Am I being silly?

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Mrstumbletap · 18/12/2016 13:13

Oh my god OP that's sounds like such a horrible traumatic time for you. And you had other children to look after whilst you were going through all that?

I am so glad your little girl has made a recovery and is walking and talking again. I think it's absolutely normal how you are feeling, time and talking to someone in sure will make things better. In 3 years it won't seem raw, in 5 years even less so etc. But one year is nothing, you thought you were going to lose your little girl and can still see her lying helplessly in that bed, that image will be clear as day in your mind, and upset you whenever you think about it.

The more years you have on the other side** of it I'm sure will make things easier. Flowers

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 18/12/2016 13:23

Double second the box of chocolates - big one if you can! All the NHS staff I knew and worked with were always more than happy to get chocolate!

One of the nicest things that ever happened to me in the labs was having someone send some chocolates down with the samples (in a separate bag, of course!!) on Christmas Eve - it really cheered me up. :)

I took chocolates in for my midwives after DS1 was born, they were really pleased.

ChinchillaFur · 18/12/2016 13:31

You will have focussed all your mental energy on getting through such a traumatic time and getting your dd well again, and it's precisely because she's now better that you have the brain space to think about things and allow yourself to be upset. Totally normal IMO. Would recommend seeing your GP.

I had to see my GP for some anxiety medication when my dd was seriously ill and was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes, utterly out of the blue last November. I held it together for 3 weeks, in the hospital, very little sleep, learning all the medical stuff, then bringing her home again which was terrifying. It was only when she finally went back to school that my brain just fell apart. My GP was brilliant Smile. I did find the 1 year anniversary a difficult day so totally know how you're feeling. Big hugs xx

Lasagneforbreakfast · 18/12/2016 20:28

Ok, will definitely be taking at least a big box of chocolates with me.

Donating something sounds like a good idea. I did want to give them something that would remind them of my dd every time they looked at it/used it. They were so lovely and we really got to know them in the 2 months we were there. One doctor who left before we were discharged made a point to go and see us before she left to catch her flight. She told us that she would never forget dd and seeing what we had gone through was one of the most distressing things she had come across in her years as a paediatric doctor, that we should be proud of the way we were handling it. I found her honesty so comforting.
I for certain won't forget the team who helped us through this so would really like something that reminds them of us.

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Wolverbamptonwanderer · 18/12/2016 20:32

Wow. You poor, poor things. I'm so pleased she is better and I hope you can get some help with the trauma

DorotheaHomeAlone · 19/12/2016 06:33

They will love the chocolate and card bit will really, really love seeing your dd so much recovered. I hope you're being as kind to yourself.

Brainwashed · 19/12/2016 09:19

How you're feeling is completely normal and it will get better with time. My eldest had bacterial meningitis and was in hospital for his first birthday. For his next few birthdays I remembered all the horrible stuff we went through rather than being able to enjoy him and his day. It got better year on year and now it's just a story we tell rather than feeling the whole thing again iyswim.

Morphene · 19/12/2016 09:40

So glad to see the message is sinking in OP :)

Don't be surprised if going back wakes up a lot of feelings - and if it does then use it, let the emotions come back.

My first time back on the ward where I experienced my trauma was going carol singing, and I didn't feel I could collapse in tears, so it ended up being another small negative instead of a positive.

Maybe don't take your DD the first time you go in case you feel overwhelmed? You could always take her back later when you are more recovered?

Lasagneforbreakfast · 19/12/2016 15:08

Yes, I had hoped time would make things easier, but I've obviously not given myself anough time.

Went to GP and she literally saw me in under 60seconds. I didn't want to sit there and start crying and asking for help... I thought she would kind of ask me more questions and gather information from me.
I told her I haven't been sleeping well for the last year since my daughter was critically ill in hospital and that I always feel really tired and drained, unable to focus well on anything, feeling anxious over the smallest things. She responded with "ok, I'll send off for some blood tests. Have you been losing weight?" I said no and waited to see if she would ask me anything else... but no, that was it. She printed some forms off and sent me on my way! Confused

I know perhaps I should have been more assertive but I find it hard to talk about how I feel with anyone. Like other posters have said, I've gotten used to pushing those feelings down, deep inside and few sacred to let them resurface... that's why I hoped she would catch on that there was something not quite right.

Anyway, will have a chat with consultants at DD's next neuro or psyche appointment.

Thanks all for the lovely wishes x

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PacificDogwod · 19/12/2016 21:32

Get your blood tests done (that is a good starting point), then go back for a review.
If your bloods are all normal (that is reassuring, of course, but does not change a darn thing about how you are feeling) you ask, 'what now? I would like to access some counselling to help me process what happened'.
Be assertive, not bolshy or rude, but stand your ground.
Be your own advocate.

I am sorry that you did too feel heard by your GP. But please go back. Or see another GP if you have the option and if you would find that more beneficial?

I suspect that your DD's consultant won't be able to help you (although who knows? Maybe they have a resource for traumatised parents - worthwhile asking about).

I had a premature baby 12 years ago, at 31 weeks. He did not do as well as was expected initially (he is fine now Smile) and spent time on NICU and ventilated longer than anticipated, will a few dips and crises along the way.
Fast forward almost 10 years and a friend's DD was critically ill and on paediatric ICU (not the same ward that my DS had been on all those years ago). I went to visit my friend (I did not see her DD who was in isolation and not allowed any visitors) and while I stood in the anteroom, waiting for my friend to come out, I burst in to tears at the mere thought of what all the children behind those doors were going through, and what their parents were feeling. I was sobbing proper hiccuping sobs - and felt a right twit at the same time Grin.

I am just recounting that story because I don't want you to feel or believe that what you are feeling is in anyway unusual or weird or weak or abnormal. It just shows that you are human and strong (you got through the horrible times) and you are now beginning to process it all. I would suggest you and your DD have gone through more serious illness than my DS and me and still it affected me 10 years later.

Get your blood done and make an appointment for review and an onward plan.
Thanks

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 22/12/2016 06:17

Sorry that your GP didn't pick up on your issues, but I suspect that it was because of time of year/overwork/Govt directives - next time, when you go to discuss your results, have a piece of paper with you that details more of your issues. Hand it over and ask them to read it - it will be quicker and easier than you trying to get up the nerve to speak about it, and then they will have the info to try and get you help.

Also, if you felt dismissed by that GP, consider asking to see a different one at the practice (if you have that choice). But if you feel she could have been ok if you'd spoken up, then give her another chance if you want to.

In the meantime, practise talking about it with friends/family - the more you start to open those locked-down boxes of feelings and thoughts, the easier it should become (although do be careful of yourself - if it feels too overwhelming then stop)

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