48hr rule

[GizmoFrisby]

My little boy 7 came home yesterday to tell me a little girl 6 at his school got sent home for pooing all over a chair (diarrhoea) he said it was awful and her dad had to collect her. Went to school this morning and she's in school. AIBU to think this is totally wrong. She was sent in a few months ago with norovirus and the whole school was off due to it spreading.
What would u do? Complain to school or AIBU ???

Things like this make me furious

Selfish inconsiderate twats that call themselves parents.

No wonder these awful bugs spread like wildfire.

If it was me, I would say something to the School. Similar situation happened at my DS school and I spoke to the HT. Twice.

I never thought twice about it. Parents need to be told and reminded . A lot.

If they do then I would complain to the school. my daughter threw up all yesterday evening and I will not be taking her back to school until Friday even though I work and its inconvenient. Some people are unbelievable really

Our school has a reminder about the 48 hr rule in big bold letters in the newsletter - every week.

Gizmo "Because big or medical problem other kids and staff should not be put in this situation over and over. If your child is ill being sick wether it be a bug or not agreeing with a certain food I believe they should be at home. It's not a teachers job to clean up children's shit and sick. They should be at home"

Yeah, because it's not like getting an education matters...

Any other symptoms of a bug, they stay home, but if they stayed home everything they have a recurrence odd their medical conditions, they'd miss horrific amounts of school. My dd was missing at least 2-3 days per fortnight before the first school allowed us an exemption to the 48 hour rule. Kids with (non infectious) medical conditions have just as much right to be in school as anyone else, whether it be mental health, learning difficulties, mobility issues, sensory issues or gastro. The school just has to put the right support network in place. Just because you can't see it for some conditions, that doesn't stop it existing.

She would be sent home from any of the schools I work in and refused a return before 48 hours was up.

YNBU. I'd mention it to the teacher.

I once did have a word with DCs old school when one particular parent kept sending their child in ill. My eldest DC ended up getting the same tummy bug twice in two weeks and similar happened with a chest virus that turned into a chest infection (eldest has asthma). We had to get some strong antibiotics from the consultant to see that one off.

It's so hard with children as if I'd kept mine off for every little thing they'd never be in school! but I do abide by the 48hr rule to try and stop it spreading. DD had is on antibiotics at the moment for an ear infection. She had diarrhoea Tue evening and it was more than likely to do with the side effect of the abs. I still kept her off for 48hours following to be on the safe side.

I'd say just be glad her parent came and picked her up OP, in DCs old school, one poor child was left having diarrhoea all day and the teachers having to deal with her. Their parent lied about where they were making out they were miles away and couldn't get to them in time. I know this because the parent told me this themselves, whilst laughing thinking it was absolutely hilarious poor kid.

ItsNice Exactly. DD had diarrhoea last Tue evening. Absolutely fine since and put it down to her antibiotics. I still kept her off for 48hours following because of the rule that very few parents stick too and also because if she had had an accident she'd have never have lived it down.

amama

We are not talking about education. Of course this is important,why do you think we are bothered about our children catching these bugs. And we are not talking about keeping your children off for a sniffle. Have U actually rtft??? She shit herself at school and was sent home. Was sent in to school then threw up at school, sent home. I think you are totally not helpful and you are a culprit sending your child in after spewing up on a pavement. We are talking about keeping your child off school if they are throwing up and have diarrhoea. If you are going to go off subject and talk riddles please don't comment.

awaywith

I would do the exact same. Glad there are some thoughtful mothers out there that put their children first,rather than getting rid of them at school for them to embarrass themselves

Thanks Gizmo she had a special assembly on the Thursday too. She was gutted she was going to miss it and wasn't very happy with me at all! but I just couldn't take the chance of me thinking, she'll be fine, and then once she was up on that stage if she'd have had an accident in front of everyone I'd have never forgiven myself.

I would feel the exact same. If my son did what that little girl did he would feel totally humiliated. And I would be totally embarrassed too. They are best at home when poorly in their own environment where they feel comfortable and at ease if they do urgently need the bathroom

I had a boy in my class who was off on Monday and back in class on Tuesday. Looked like death on Tuesday so my TA asked him why he was off and how he was feeling. Turned out he'd vomited the previous day. Several times. TA and I were angry and concerned that he'd spread the bug and we'd be dealing with upset and poorly children so went to the headteacher who refused to do anything.

Incidentally, I've had an upset stomach for the last 5 days. Could be coincidence......

Why on earth would the HT refuse to do anything? if you work at my DCs old school I completely understand

basted I hope you're feeling better soon.

My DD was in Day Nursery when I was at Uni. Which I went to in the next city. They called me back when she had a runny nappy because they couldn't get in touch with the emergency contacts.

I just think its unfair to the child too. No one likes to be stuck at work all day when they're ill. Imagine how poorly the child feels being made to be at school all day when they'd rather be on the sofa having cuddles with Mum and Dad.

My son missed most of the first three weeks of reception because he tends to make himself vomit when nervous. He would throw up, come home, be fine the rest of the day and the next day, then back to school on day three to start the cycle again.

Thank goodness the sensible teacher decided to try a different approach. The day she cleaned him up and sent him back to join the other children was the last day he puked in school, funnily enough! It was playing havoc with his education - and with our jobs!

The best moment was picking him up and overhearing a friend's little girl telling her mum that she'd been awarded the 'star of the day' award "...for being brave about [my son's name] being sick in my hair."

Basted
I hope u feel better soon. I totally don't get any parent who sends their child to school whilst puking. As a pp said above, their other plans are more important than the child's health.

If my child had come home and another child had vomited over them I would go mad. It's not just vomit is it it's full of germs and another child's bodily fluids. This is what makes bugs. I totally don't understand. Would it not of been better you going in the class with him for periods of time rather than him throwing up. As that would make him worse after throwing up. My mind is totally boggled

Gizmo

It's totally relevant! My child has medical conditions that affect her digestive system. You can't see that but the school are aware so might judge us for sending her in, but we and the school have to make a judgement as to whether it could be a bug or whether it's her medical conditions causing the illness.

This child could very well have something similar, you'd have no idea as you're not privy to their medical records. The school accepted her back so it's perfectly plausible that she could have something similar to my dd as they'll know about her situation unlike just another parent.

My daughter was missing roughly 30% of school before this plan was put in place because of her illness which classes as a disability- reasonable adjustments have to be made.

GizmoFrisby

I second everything that you have said. Since my DS started School the ignorance ( as well as arrogance) of many parents astounds me.

I appreciate that there are Children for whom they have health conditions but this thread is about sending them to School when they're clearly unwell with bugs that cause them to be sick.

I too would go absolutely ape if another child was sick in my DS hair. I would be livid.

IMO the class teachers accepting them
in the classroom need to ask more questions and be more firmer, turning them away if necessary. Ours stands at the classroom door.

Our HT stands on the gate and she is very firm- often turning them away, but there are also those parents that sneakily rush past her and usher the child through the door the day ( or morning) after they've been sick. I saw three children just last week bent over in agony, faces as white as sheets, and the parents hurrying them up. One was only about four and his face looked etched in pain and his Mother was hissing at him to hurry up. Where the fuck are people's brains? They are ill for fucks sake. Sod your meeting or apologies that you can't do your Christmas shopping but your child needs to be at home. They are ill. Incidentally, for those posters that may now respond by saying " How do you know it's a bug- they could have a health condition etc" , I know because a sick bug is doing the rounds at our School. There are buckets everywhere in the sick bay in the school office and I have spoken to many parents whose children have had it.

It's beyond selfish- both for the unwell child and their poor unsuspecting classmates.

Gizmo - in what way could it have been better if we'd gone into class with him for periods of time? As it was, as soon as the teacher identified he was being sick due to a psychological/control thing she stopped sending him home and he never did it again.

Prior to that he was always home for 48 hours after vomiting - inclouding in that poor girl's hair - and it did nothing to help because the trigger for the vomiting was going to school!

To Ankleswingers who would "go absolutely ape if another child was sick in my child's hair," with whom would you be angry? My four-year-old for being sick? Me for assiduously following the 48-hour rule then sending him in confident he had no vomiting bug? The school for not permanently excluding him? Any of those seems a bit pointless, somehow! Fortunately both the little girl and her mum were able to laugh it off.

Amama
They sent her straight home again before class started. They did not accept her back.
I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me.
Let's leave it there.

Casper

How on earth do u know wether it's anxious sick or a bug??
Do you know your child that well to know they a anxious vomiting or bug vomiting? Whichever way you look at it your child can cause bugs by being let to vomit over another child! It's absolutely insane.

YANBU

Ankle

Glad there are some normal parents out there who would prefer their child to be at home poorly rather than vomiting on another poor child at school.

Gizmo - we didn't know at the time, vut we started to suspect because every time he went to school he was sick about an hour after we left him, and never sick at home. For three weeks. The teacher obviously came to the same conclusion.

We would certainly prefer him to be home if he were poorly, but he was just fine. That's the whole point of the story, in case you missed it.

Ankles just because there are bugs hung around doesn't stop other illness occurring.

Gizmo I don't believe you'd said that she was sent straight home (in fact in your op you said she's in school), in that case it clearly is a bug, but if the school responded in that manner, I don't understand what you would have to complain to them about?

I seriously hope you never have to deal with something like the conditions we do, you can't just confine yourself to the house because other people don't like it, a little compassion for what people might be suffering with would go a long way, and yes, of course people that are experienced with conditions such as these can tell the difference between these things and bugs!

The first time my daughter was ill at the new school (we'd already agreed to waive the 48hr rule for occasions when it's clearly caused by her condition) when I took her in the next morning, I had a meeting with the head teacher before school even started to discuss what had happened, how they could've adjusted their treatment of her to help prevent the situation and make a new plan. They were understanding and considerate and eager to ensure her needs are met, you can't just exclude children whose conditions make things a little difficult for the school.

Amama

The father had another daughter (the one with worms) who he had to bring to school. I said I saw her in the school yard and was bothered she was going to be sent in. However she threw up in the yard ( with her rucksack on so she was being sent) and teachers grabbed her dad and sent her home.
You are not being helpful of this thread. The discussion is about send a poorly child to school. Obviously you are super mum and know when your child is sick but actually not poorly. Even when they throw up on the pavement outside school. You sound just like these parents the rest of us are sick of. So if u don't mind take your supermum powers else where. Your shit opinion isn't needed.