To be mildly irritated by most tiring job ever?

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A friend who is a teacher has been saying how exhausted she is, and that only other teachers would understand. She is not joking. AIBU to be mildly irritated by this? Yes teachers do a hard job, but there are other jobs that are also exhausting.

It's not of course MrsGB but in many schools it's like banging your head against a brick wall.

"It's what OFSTED want to see."
"We have to be seen to be accountable."

Basically computer says no.

Please could someone outline what 'real world' jobs are and how they qualify as such?

Isn't the most exhausting job, the one that you don't enjoy? I don't really know about anyone else, but I can keep going for ever when I'm enjoying my job. Give me a boring job, or one I hate, and I'm going to be exhausted so much quicker.

You're right Billy. The issue is that all of the accountability measures have sucked all the joy out of teaching and out of school. People seem to think that children are just tiny adults and should be made to work like them. They sit them at desks for five hours a day and test them over and over again to see if they've improved.

Quite frankly, being a teacher at the moment makes me want to home school my daughter! If only there was a Steiner school nearby!

Teachers don't have the monopoly on being tired, I know a lot of teachers and yes they do a great job, not sure I could heard 30 kids day in day out and try to teach them something. But many other jobs are (more/as) stressful (surgeon, doctor) and don't get anything like the holidays the teachers get.
I work an office job that involves lots of required overtime, travelling and late nights, 12 hour days are normal this time of year (August through December) and during September / October I spent many days working until 12/1am (with a break at 5.30-8 to pick kids from childminders and get them some dinner then back to work). That is exhausting too. Not all office jobs are 9-5 (I wish mine was!) Many others do overtime (unpaid) and work all the hours god sends and then just end up with 4 or 5 weeks holiday. At least as a teacher you have the perk of the holidays (as a teacher friend put it "we never have to work more then 8 weeks without at least a week off")
So yes teachers can be exhausted sometimes, but they are not the only ones.

I think a lot of GPs do a 4 day week - so long days (probably similar to a teacher) but a day off in the week. Nobody seems to complain about that - everyone knows they will do a better job if they have a day off to themselves. So over the course of the year not dissimilar number of days of per annum.

GPs work far longer hours than teachers . I nanny two days for a teacher and two days for a Gp the GP finishes at 1030 the teacher 430.

GPs work far longer hours than teachers

They are also paid about double, and have a lot more 'respect' although the govt have been trying to erode that in the medical professions as they have with teachers. Similar in that you have to 'perform' constantly all day ever day and a lot of hoop jumping.

Change jobs then- if it's so hard and you get paid so little go and do a different job. Cleaning, retail, mac Donald's, factory work. Just stop moaning.

I'll say it again. One in ten teachers did quit last year. Be careful what you wish for, because it could well be your child not having a teacher as a result.

Change jobs then- if it's so hard and you get paid so little go and do a different job.

I am! I go at Christmas and can't wait. I'm a 2.1 graduate with an MSc and more than fifteen years of outstanding teaching. My school have advertised my job but nobody has applied-not one single person.

My class is being covered by two teaching assistants in January whilst they try to advertise again. This sort of thing will happen again and again if this isn't sorted out. I'm sure some people would much rather just accuse teachers of moaning than try to see what the actual problem is.

It really is not the pay that's the problem.

What are you going to do Appuskidu? Losing teachers like you is a real loss to society. I wonder if the government will care?

I'll say it again. One in ten teachers did quit last year. Be careful what you wish for, because it could well be your child not having a teacher as a result

We are not all daft enough to be live that all the teachers will leave me there will be NO TEACHERS.just as we won't be left with no nurses, no strawberry no potato pickers. There is always always some human being willing to work harder. I work with Immigrants and what they would give to be able to train for a secure, professional job with a pension and a union. They work 16 hours a day to live in an overcrowded, shared home in a city centre. Just get a grip!

Hahaha. Stuffitupyourbum you're hilarious. Actually no, you're just of touch with the retention crisis in teaching and the detrimental effect the it is already having on students. It's getting worse too.

Teachers share homes in cities.

There is always always some human being willing to work harder. I work with Immigrants and what they would give to be able to train for a secure, professional job with a pension and a union.

What could possibly go wrong!?

Teachers share homes in cities

Ha ha

Just to outline exactly what that means. My last school, in 2 years lost about 85% of their experiences staff when taken over by an academy chain they went from their best GCSE results to their worse and the sixth form went from over 200 to about 80 students. My current school which has recently changed heads had 7 English teachers leave over one academic year. Finding new teacher (including immigrants) in our county is very, very difficult due to house prices here. So to put that into perspective, one year 7 class had 5 English teachers in one year. That kind of things is happening across the country. And it's getting worse. Not better. So belive what you like. Facts are facts though.

Sounds like a new scheme, let's draft the strawberry pickers in to teach when all the teachers have left and turned out the lights!

Teachers share homes in cities.

What do you mean?

Stuffit is like a strange, mirror image Nigel Farage.

Our local grammar sent a letter home on the last day of the summer term informing parents that they had been unable to hire a maths teacher for September. The head said that he had advertised twice but simply had no applicants. The letter asked if any parents knew of anyone who could teach maths at the school in the September!

Yup, ours asked if any of us had a level maths so we could teach it, better than a total random call out I suppose.

stuffitupyourbum

Teachers are leaving faster than they can be trained, this is a fact.

Will we run out of teachers?

Probably not but when its 1 teacher to 60, 90 or 120 pupils (random figures) with the classes being taken by TA's, HLTA's, cover supervisors or supply teachers, will you be bothered then?