People are unbelievably inconsiderate...or thick or both?

[Fieldsandgrasses]

Had a lovely afternoon apart from I was watching a play next to a woman wearing a wide-rimmed hat. OK, didn't affect me in that I could still see, but what about the people behind her? Isn't it common sense not to wear a hat in those circumstances?

Then I went to the bank and had to wait for ages while cashiers explained to customers that they couldn't fulfil their requests. Surely, most over the counter operations are quite simple and if it is not possible, or your request is unintelligible and the cashier has no idea what is needed, you live away from the counter to let other people be served?

How hard can these things be? Urgh, feel better now I have said that. I just think if you go through life being reasonably thoughtful and intelligent about the way you go about things, life is so much easier for everyone?

I love this thread! I get the rage often with people who dawdle, or stop just at the top of escalators.

One family on the tube had about 20 suitcases and stopped right at the bottom of the escalators. Cue all the rest of us having to jump over them, or push past quickly to avoid a pile up!

What really bugs me are those customers in smaller shops who just have to have a really long conversation with the person serving, completely oblivious to the ever-increasing queue of people behind them. They usually come out at a busy lunchtime to buy a few irrelevances (i.e. not their lunch) and usually don't have their purse ready, so that's another few minutes of checking pockets, searching through their bag, etc., then launch into a really long conversation about little Johnnie or great aunt Edna, usually with the shop worker giving apologetic glances to the long queue. Finally, either the person looks around and appears genuinely shocked that the queue is now out of the door or the shop assistant finally says something like, "can I just move your things to the side so I can serve other people". It's a complete lack of awareness - either that or they really just couldn't care less. They're also the ones who look angry if someone behind them dares to say something like "can I just get this please". Why don't they come out mid morning or early afternoon when the shop's quieter - I just don't get it at all!

Was at a TK Maxx a couple of years ago going up the escalator, behind a couple with a child in a buggy. Big sign at the bottom saying no buggies - big picture with a line through it - but clearly they were too important to use the lift. Anyway, we get to the top and they go to push the buggy off, but it gets stuck and won't move over the lip as me and everybody else are piling into them. I fell forward but managed not to fall over as they scrambled to lift it off before there was a big pile up. Apparently being called a pair of fucking arsehole isn't nice. Who knew!

We were in a supermarket queue behind one of those chatters & her husband. The talking was bad enough but then she started getting out photos of her grandchildren.

Ignorant, dumb people who beep at you for not pulling out at a junction when they can't see the road that you are pulling out on to and therefore have no idea if it is safe or not.

This happened to me on my actual driving test! The tester got out and went and had a word with them. Said he couldn't believe it and it was the first time it had happened to him.

I had a knee replacement a few months ago so have been on crutches and then a stick. It has been eye opening at how rude people are. Walking towards me but playing on their phones and expecting me to move. In the hospital a doctor walked around me (after realising I wasn't going to move) but squeezed himself between me and the wall rather than into the other side which had so much space a car could have driven down it.

On the plus side, a lot of people have been super helpful.

Someone beeped at me recently at a toll bridge. The were ONLY about six other booths he could have gone to, all empty. And I wasn't dilly dallying either. Fucker!

Also why do people think that it's OK because they said sorry. I feel like sorry is being used to excuse selfish and rude behaviour

My 14 year old ds is like this! He does something stupid (as opposed to selfish or rude - like elbowing you because he moved suddenly without checking where you were) and then says it was an accident. As if he shouldn't get told off if it wasn't deliberate. I feel like I still have several years of drumming in the concept of negligence to him...and certainly before he starts learning to drive!

Whenever I see the priority seats on buses taken by people who don't apparently need them while people who do need them (heavily pregnant or obviously frail elderly) are standing, it's almost always a relatively young person glued to their phone and either pretending to be unaware, or genuinely so.
I have been known to point out (politely) that they should please move. It's very rare that I see anyone else doing so.

Ditto the people who plonk a bag on the seat next to them on a crowded bus with many people standing, and pretend to be too glued to their phone to notice.
Hardly anyone ever asks them to move it. I can't think why not. They just glare or look wearily resigned.

I do sometimes get some eye-rolling when I ask, but nobody has ever refused. I can happily ignore the eye rolling, but I do often wonder what sort of parents such blatantly inconsiderate people have had.

Train station, long queue to buy tickets, machine not working, only train for half an hour due in 3 minutes.

Lady at the head of the queue clutching a bit if paper, making enquiries/chit chat about different routes and ticket types for various journeys over the next few weeks, but not actually needing a ticket to travel now. FFS why not step aside and let people buy their tickets for the approaching train, then make all your enquiries/purchases or better still research/buy online.

I had to go into London recently (always grim)

To make matters worse, I had to travel at the peak of rush hour after a horrible long day. Heaving, hot and I was sweating like a pig in the crush, to the point I was feeling sick.

I can categorically tell you that the Waterloo and City line at 5.20pm is not the place to turn up if you have just hosed yourself down in Obsession perfume. It's lucky that trip is so quick or the offender might have ended up wearing Obsession + Vomit Special Edition instead.

Ignorant, dumb people who beep at you for not pulling out at a junction when they can't see the road that you are pulling out on to and therefore have no idea if it is safe or not

Yes had this too. And it might be safe for them because they have a more powerful car and can get away faster - people never take that into account. I've also had it on a slip road where there was simply no space to join the road, so I had to come to a complete stop and then of course it was even harder to get away. Guy behind me got very cross, beep beep beep. Yes I should just go and the person on the road can drive into the back of me. And then I've had them beeping me because I wouldn't overtake a cyclist when a steady stream of cars were coming towards me. No, the obstruction is my side so I wait. The cars coming towards me do not need to end up in the hedge because I've decided to take up their road space.

That said, I get just as annoyed with the people who drive very very slowly looking for something. I park up and walk down the road to find the number I want rather than inconveniencing everybody behind me. And I am lost, I pull over and look at a map.

I do often wonder what sort of parents such blatantly inconsiderate people have had

The parents may have been very considerate. We all have free will and don't do everything our parents tell us to do, or behave the way they would like. In fact sometimes parents can be SO considerate bordering on martyrdom, that you react against it. Thinking of MIL here. My DH used to be a bit the same but I think he's less of a mug now. That does not make him rude but he does not take crap from people in the same way he did when I first met him.

Rush hour this week. Plonker of a skip lorry driver decides to pick up a skip from a house along a busy main road. Totally blocks that side of the road. People are being polite and those with right of way stop after 5 or 6 cars to let traffic through the other way, even though they don't have to.

We are second in the right of way queue and we follow the car in front and others follow behind us. A car 3 down in the other queue tries to force its way out - we just got past but he stopped the car behind. We left them nose to nose, neither able to back up because of the huge queues behind them.

What sort of idiot does that?

If you sit in a priority seat you have a duty to pay a bit of attention to who is getting on and off.

That's why I avoid them wherever possible, I want to read my book and not have to look up and assess people's standing ability at every stop.

If you need a seat and you don't ASK, my sympathy for your plight is slightly diminished. Just say something.

Thought of another on the school run. There's a bit road near school which doesn't obstruct driveways/traffic and has parking for about 9-10 cars comfortably if they all leave just enough to pull away. However sometimes cars park with such a gap that you cannot get a car into it which means the 9-10 space only has room for about 5-6. Bugs me no end.

The woman who refused to reverse on a country road despite there being a bay just behind her. I would have had to reverse 1/4 of a mile us a hill and round a corner and already had 2 cars behind me. She didn't like reversing apparently. I was taking dd1 to nursery while pg with twins doing all I could not to be sick and really couldn't deal with this woman. Guy in his car behind me ended up reversing the lady's car and she still thought we were all being mean

People who stop in shopping centres. They'll be walking along a few paces ahead of me, then stop dead in the centre of the path. WHY?!

people who walk straight to where they're going with no worry about whether they will crash into others. We noticed a few weeks back that nobody else seemed to be having to keep avoiding others like we did, and everyone was charging around. We decided not to stop once. Bloke walked straight into us and shouted at us for not moving out of his way. Erm, if you didn't want to crash, why did you not pay attention, mate?

Taxi drivers who just stop at the side of roads with no warning or indicators.

Buses. In general.

Dog walkers who will not obey the community rules - there's a rule saying no extendable leads, and no dogs off lead. I was out with my old man last night and saw a dog and owner I've not seen before with no lead, so I went over, said hi, and mentioned the rules about leads in a nice way, assuming she's new and hasn't been aware of the dog owning debates in the residents association meetings. Her response? 'He's so well behaved, he wouldn't run off'. So fucking what? And then 'oh he wouldn't harm a fly'. Again, so fucking what. He's a dog - just because he's smaller than a Labrador's morning shit doesn't mean he isn't subject to the same rules. I then mentioned that there's been motions to ban dogs from the community if people didn't obey the rules and her response? 'Doesn't matter to me - I'll just keep him in my apartment and they'll never know'. What about the rest of us?

Or the man with the extendable lead for his dog - my dog and his dog do not get on. At all. If I see him coming, I'll take mentaldog to the side, distract her, get her jumping for sticks or treats, to make her not notice the happy piece of shit. Him? His dog is on a fully extended extendable lead so he has no control, and let's it charge, barking it's head off, at my dog I'm trying to keep away from it. And he keeps walking nonchalantly along, pretending not to notice that his flouting of the rules is creating a potentially harmful situation for his dog - seeing as mine is twice the size of his and bloody strong, his would come off worse in a fight.

People who stop in shopping centres. They'll be walking along a few paces ahead of me, then stop dead in the centre of the path. WHY?!

Not just shopping centres - they do it everywhere - bus stations, train stations, etc.

Worse are in big event venues when you have to funnel through narrow corridors or doors - when people get through the "pinch point" and it opens out again, people just stop in the middle to chat or get out their phones, completely oblivious that they're blocking people behind them.

Why can't people walk to one side or the other before stopping, or better still, carry on walking a bit further on where it's even more open?

I agree that lots of people seem to have absolutely no radar. They just don't see anyone beyond themselves. But there are the others who can see perfectly well, but think they are speshul.

I think the queue dodgers can be both types. I was in the post office and the queue was about 15 people long, with one counter. In comes the usual suspect who walks right up to the counter. Why on earth do they think everyone is standing in a line?!

Dh commutes to London every day and he swears behaviour has become worse. People barging onto the train when others are clearly queueing. And people eating smelly, messy food and then leaving the debris behind - at 7 o'clock in the morning. On what planet is it acceptable to get out a punnet of milk and try to pour it onto cereal as the train is swaying along at top speed? This woman regularly sloshes other passengers and even the rule of Never Talk to a Fellow Commuter has been broken as people have commiserated with each other and even reported her to the guard.

I have always taught dcs that Manners Maketh Man (or woman). But so many people think Manners Maketh Mug.

I agree with everything on this thread!
I'd like to add a particular type of cyclist. A few years ago a lot of money and effort was spent putting in proper cycle paths on some of the main roads in my town.
Some cyclists don't use them and hold up the traffic. Argh!
People who tell you that they're going to do a particular thing to help you run an event but then either flake out entirely or do turn up, but they're late and they do a very bad job so you have to do it all again anyway. If you're daft enough to say anything they hit you with guilt laden excuses about how busy etc they always are.
Well if that's the case don't bloody volunteer in the first place!!

Well I for one am relieved about the flight crew upthread!

Yes to everyone else, and as I get older I am becoming the batshit lady who pulls random people up on their unacceptable behaviour (which makes my children either laugh or want the ground to swallow them up depending on the incident!).

I am trying very hard (and thankfully succeeding as far as I know) to make sure my kids are kind and considerate and consider other people as they go about their lives - it saddens me that there is clearly an 'entitled and couldn't give a fuck' ethos which is becoming endemic .

People who get on a bus and then faff around getting out their money or oyster card whichever. As if getting on a bus was a surprise to them.

Idiots who decide to dither at the top or bottom of busy escalators risking a pile up.