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DD wants to come home from work, WIBU to not pick her up?

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Alloo1 · 07/12/2016 15:50

DD works in a supermarket. She started at 2 pm and has until 10 pm to do. She has injured her hand, it got caught between 2 heavy boxes, she says that it isn't broken (obviously she doesn't know) but that the swelling is coming out and so it's aching when she is doing lifting, etc. she spoke to manager on shift and they said that as she is moving it, with little discomfort, they think it's best she stays. We are going on holiday in January and I think it looks bad to come home, especially as her manager has said she won't approve. She phoned me on break and asked me to pick her up she explained what manager has said, so I said why don't you ask to go on tills. She is 16, so they don't like her on the tills as the alcohol has to be approved. AIBU by not picking her up?

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Trifleorbust · 07/12/2016 16:07

OP, she could lose her job, yes. She won't necessarily, though.

happychristmasbum · 07/12/2016 16:07

There is a legal requirement for this to be logged as a workplace accident/injury. The manager sounds like an idiot.

I would go and collect her and make sure it has been reported. DD is unfit to work due to an industrial injury and shouldn't suffer any detriment.

HermioneJeanGranger · 07/12/2016 16:07

Her manager is BU not to record her injury, but in my experience of big box retail, they don't care about doing things properly, only about low absence and having people do their shifts.

However, her manager's decision unfortunately means that if she leaves and goes early, she'll either be sacked for walking off the job, or subject to disciplinary. I would tell her you can't override her manager's decision, but say you'll pick her up at 10 and take her to OOH if it's still really bad when she finishes.

Original poster
Alloo1 · 07/12/2016 16:08

I really don't want her to lose this job, she really likes it too. That's why I don't want to be a part of her being sacked. I have no clue if the manager is first aid trained

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happychristmasbum · 07/12/2016 16:09

Hermione they aren't just being unreasonable - it's illegal. The manager is the one who could lose their job over this if it isn't dealt with properly, not OPs DD. Most employers, large or small, don't like the idea of Health and Safety Executive attention................

NiceFalafels · 07/12/2016 16:10

Can you pop in and see her to assess it yourself. She's young and vulnerable

Trifleorbust · 07/12/2016 16:12

She probably won't lose her job. But the reality is that you have virtually no rights before you work somewhere for two years, so if she gets fired for walking off the shift, I don't know how far you would be able to do anything about it (and for a 16 year old in a minimum wage job, how worthwhile that would be). But if you think her hand might actually be broken then none of that makes a difference - she should get it seen to.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 07/12/2016 16:13

If your daughter aggravates her injury by continuing to work when she should be having her hand assessed/treated, she will likely need even longer off work.

Original poster
Alloo1 · 07/12/2016 16:13

Her wage is actually really good.

I don't know if it's broken, DD has made the judgement that it isn't, but she still isn't one to make things seem worse than they are

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Elanrode · 07/12/2016 16:14

I think if she likes the job and doesn't want to be sacked she must be in a lot of pain to be considering walking off shift.

Trifleorbust · 07/12/2016 16:15

Right. In that case I would just leave it up to her. If she doesn't think it's broken and she isn't in a huge amount of pain, she may not feel it's worth walking out. Obviously if she does, go and pick her up!

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Alloo1 · 07/12/2016 16:16

She just says that the lifting is making it worse etc

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HoopsandEverything · 07/12/2016 16:18

If she wants to stay, and the managed thinks she should stay, why did she phone you up asking to pick her up?

Hissy · 07/12/2016 16:18

The shop is a public space right? You could pop in... and bump into her and have a look at that hand.

OurBlanche · 07/12/2016 16:18

Alloo has she been seen by a 1st Aider? Has the incident been logged in the accident book? Have any of the usual legalities been followed?

If not she should insist on seeing a 1st aider, immediately.

Then she and you can work from there.

Trifleorbust · 07/12/2016 16:18

Just ask her what she wants to do. If she wants to leave work she can do so and you can go and get her.

DontTouchTheMoustache · 07/12/2016 16:20

I don't see how your DDs manager is able to make the call on how badly injured it is unless she is medically trained. If you are concerned about her losing her job take her to a walk in centre to have it checked then it is recorded that she left work to seek medical assistance for a work related injury. Should the manager try to sack her then she would have a fight on her hands. Is your DD the overdramatic type? If not and she genuinely feels she is unable to carry on working then I don't know why you wouldn't take her word for it and pick her up?

TheProblemOfSusan · 07/12/2016 16:21

Do tell her to make sure this gets logged in their accident book and then seen to in the OOH when she gets off shift. I wouldn't have wanted to risk the job at 16 either but this does need documenting and assessing properly so that the unreasonable manager can be exposed if necessary.

Also doing this properly is/should be a workplace norm - our director would have a fit if an accident or near miss wasn't recorded immediately.

K425 · 07/12/2016 16:24

BigSandyBalls2015 They have to be in education, employment or training, so supermarket obviously counts as employment. As it is, it's part-time, she's learning how to do it, and she's still at college - I'd try and count it as all three. Grin

TheDisreputableDog · 07/12/2016 16:26

If it's getting worse when she's using it she needs to go and see her manager again and explain. The employer has a responsibility to look after her if she is injured at work. If she doesn't feel she can carry on and it needs medical attention she needs to say so and go and get some before everything closes. If she doesn't normally exaggerate why would she be now?

HermioneJeanGranger · 07/12/2016 16:27

Has she been seen by a first aider? That should be the first step - she can report it herself if her manager refuses to.

LadyWhoLikesLunch · 07/12/2016 16:28

BigSandyBalls2015 K425 You can leave school at 16 in the UK

Ineededtonamechange · 07/12/2016 16:33

Regardless of whether it is broken, as a first aider I would be following Rest, Ice, Compression Elevation.

If I, as a first aider, was unsure if it was broken or not (and I'm not qualified enough as a first aider at work to be an xray machine) then they would be sent home to seek medical treatment (or an ambulance called if a serious situation - not this).

I'm not sure that the manager is following proper procedure. If she is saying to them that work is making things more painful and they are ignoring her distress then I'm pretty sure that they are getting it wrong.

SapphireStrange · 07/12/2016 16:33

I agree with Blanche. Never mind 'as she is moving it, with little discomfort, they think it's best she stays'; Hmm it needs proper attention from someone with a clue.

SapphireStrange · 07/12/2016 16:34

To clarify, the Hmm face is for the manager and their attitude, not you or your DD!!!

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