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AIBU to think that people should clean up after themselves in a cinema?

116 replies

Clandestino · 04/12/2016 18:46

Just came back from the cinema, saw Moana (fantastic movie, btw).
Families with little kids all around us, all with large. popcorn/drink combos or similar.
Now there will always be some spillage, especially with kids. But this wasn't only spilt popcorn or ice-cream. They simply got up and left all wrappers, drink cups and packaging behind.
AIBU to believe that teaching your children to take their trash with them and dump it into a bin outside is basic manners? How can they leave a room looking like a pigsty?

OP posts:
AndNowItsSeven · 05/12/2016 11:56

Keep the staff will be surprised, and hoping it's not them that get sacked!

AndNowItsSeven · 05/12/2016 11:56

*kel

limitedperiodonly · 05/12/2016 15:37

I don't think you should leave your shit behind but I can see why cinemas tell you to do it and don't bother providing bins.

I first encountered the theory that leaving rubbish behind was a laudable job creation scheme for grateful staff a few years ago on a thread about Macdonald's.

I'm not convinced that tipping my leftovers into one of the many bins provided that are marked Thank You and leaving my tray on the stack robs anyone of work. No member of staff has ever told me to stop doing it either.

BoomBoomsCousin · 05/12/2016 17:23

I don't think cinemas want you to leave it as a job creation scheme, but so that people get out more smoothly and other patrons aren't annoyed by people trying to pick up a spilt carton of popcorn, looking for the empty cup they know rolled three seats towards the middle or hissing at their children to go back and get the ice cream tub they left behind.

Caboodle · 05/12/2016 18:12

zad761 my local newsagents is very keen to sell me stuff and they don't provide bins. I still take my sweet wrappers home.
How much stuff do people eat at the cinema that they have to leave their rubbish?

limitedperiodonly · 05/12/2016 18:26

Some people don't need much encouragement to behave like pigs. But cinemas encourage it by flogging huge amounts of food at inflated prices.

I've been to Vue cinemas but I've never seen their notices telling patrons to leave their rubbish behind. As I said, I think that's a good business plan as they probably make far more money flogging popcorn and nachos than they pay in cleaners. Definitely far less than they'd have to pay in fines to the local authority for being an anti-social business.

I think you should take your rubbish with you. If you are regularly chucking most of your very expensive bucket of popcorn on the floor you should wonder about whether you really wanted that.

But if you want to pay for it and they clean it up, who is being hurt?

Krampus · 05/12/2016 18:33

Out local view had signs up saying to leave rubbish som it could be recycled by staff. I leave it on the seats but make it a bit neater and easier to clear away.

bakingaddict · 05/12/2016 18:39

It's common sense isn't it as a pp said if everybody is scrabbling around trying to pick up litter and find bins to put away rubbish then it takes longer to clear the cinema. Quicker and easier for staff to just go in after customers and blitz cinema. Same principle on trains, don't know why people are getting all high minded about leaving rubbish. It seems to be manners for manners sake rather than logical thinking

Sparklingbrook · 05/12/2016 18:46

YANBU. It's one thing to maybe leave an empty popcorn bucket on the floor maybe, or an empty drink cup. But it's the people who seem to have got more popcorn on the floor than in their mouths that make me Hmm Plus assorted pick and mix and nachos etc

Just take your rubbish home.

I am always appalled by the amount of mess people leave on aeroplanes too.

GlitterGlue · 05/12/2016 18:51

It's definitely not the same on trains. The conductor doesn't come round with a black bag after every stop. If rubbish is dumped there at York it's probably still there as you approach London.

bakingaddict · 05/12/2016 18:58

Have you ever travelled on Virgin trains Glitterglue you have a person come around with a clear bag a couple of times throughout the journey as waste bins on trains are so small and not designed to hold a whole carriage worth of rubbish

limitedperiodonly · 05/12/2016 18:59

My mum and I would go to the pictures a lot and always stay until the very end when the real lights came up. We'd wade out in sea of popcorn and she'd always say to the cleaners: 'That wasn't me' :)

GlitterGlue · 05/12/2016 19:08

I have, bakingaddict. A couple of times still means that someone else's newspaper and wrappers are sitting there for quite some time.

On local trains they just don't bother.

bakingaddict · 05/12/2016 19:51

That's not my experience on Virgin trains but each to their own

GlitterGlue · 05/12/2016 20:07

Oh, we don't have proper virgin trains. The only ones we ever see are the fake ones - they took over from a previous operator and stuck virgin stickers over everything. Perhaps that's the difference?

Pseudonym99 · 05/12/2016 20:29

You're supposed to leave your rubbish behind in a cinema. Its the done thing.

YABU

Caboodle · 06/12/2016 17:40

I despair. It really isn't ok to leave litter.

AndNowItsSeven · 06/12/2016 18:19

I despair at people who don't read threads.

limitedperiodonly · 06/12/2016 18:21

I don't think it is either Caboodle. But I can see why cinemas do it. Part of me even thinks that if they are going to sell huge buckets of popcorn which are going to be only half-eaten then they ought to be responsible for clearing up the inevitable mess and telling people to leave it for their crack team of hooverers is probably the best idea.

It's not as if they don't make enough to make it worthwhile. I saw a report comparing the prices of things weight for weight and cinema popcorn came out as more expensive than gold.

I can also see someone leaving clutching their popcorn bucket meaning to find a bin and then just dumping it when they can't find one that's not overflowing.

I go to the cinema in Leicester Square a lot and and the refuse lorries are on constant patrol. I'm sure a bin could fill up in 10 minutes.

limitedperiodonly · 06/12/2016 18:30

I always leave my rubbish on planes. It's always newspapers I buy in WHSmith. I either leave them in the carrier bag on an aisle seat or if the flight crew are collecting, I pass them over to put in their big bag.

almondpudding · 06/12/2016 18:32

See why cinemas do what, limited Period?

With the exception of some Vue cinemas with a recycling policy, cinemas do not ask you to litter.

I think people see what they want to see.

I don't litter. I go to the cinema and put my rubbish in the bin, and generally see others doing the same. I consider it normal. The cinemas I go to appear to have plenty of bins.

People who litter cinemas go to the cinema, litter, and generally notice others doing the same. They see littering cinemas as normal.

limitedperiodonly · 06/12/2016 18:50

I've been to Vue almondpudding and I've never seen an instruction to leave your rubbish behind. This thread is the first time I've heard of it. As so many people have said it, I'm sure it's true and thinking about it, it makes sense for a venue to clear up the rubbish it generates on the premises rather than risking patrons dropping it in the street when they can't find bins. It'll be traced and they will be fined heavily by the local authority.

I don't believe Vue recycles it. I think they just say that to make patrons feel better.

Do you think it's okay for local businesses, such as cinemas who contribute vastly to littering and at great profit to themselves, to rely on the refuse collections funded out of the council tax to clear up after them?

Why should the local authority provide bins and endless emptying, which is what happens in my area even though the local authority are draconian about litter and tracing and fining offenders? I end up paying for it through my council tax, which isn't fair. Though, truth be told, my council tax is lower than average, perhaps because the council make businesses pay for rubbish collection and make a lot of money on parking charges.

I think it's better for businesses to make their own arrangements and for local authorities to heavily fine those businesses who don't.

Flumplet · 06/12/2016 19:04

I used to work in a small independent cinema and had to clean after each screening as part of my job and the rest of time I was ushering or behind the bar. My job was made much much easier if patrons used the bins provided - there's nothing like scrabbling around picking chewed up spat out pick n mix off the carpet in the dark. when I go to cinema now (rarely) I always clean up after myself - if it's vue policy to leave rubbish I would leave it in an organised fashion - recyclables together non recyclables together to make it easier for whomever is cleaning up. I don't understand the logic of making a mess just because some poor sod has to pick it up afterwards. That goes for any public space not just cinema.

Middleoftheroad · 06/12/2016 19:10

But there's mess and there's mess.
The odd wrapper is sloppy.
An explosion of popcorn, coke and nachos? Pigs!
I have never dropped a piece of rubbish in my life and I teach my kids the same.
It's just good manners. I could never litter our planet in that way. Gives me the Angry

Oakmaiden · 06/12/2016 19:11

I always pack any rubbish inside the largest container I have, and leave it on the seat so it is easy for the ushers to collect. If they had a person by the door with a bin bag I would give it to them, but they don't and there are no bins.

The ushers do a cursory up and down the aisles to pick up rubbish anyway. I believe as long as you're not leaving drink cups full of urine (apparently does happen) then they are happy.