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To ask the school... WTF

458 replies

bookeatingboy · 01/12/2016 22:55

DS came home yesterday with a payment card for his first residential trip next year. The cards were blue and apparently all the girls got pink cards!

Some of the girls asked for blue cards and were told that blue is for the boys and pink for the girls Confused

OP posts:
NotYoda · 02/12/2016 19:36

Night

BertrandRussell · 02/12/2016 19:37

Anyway. Shall we just all agree that everything in the garden is lovely, there is no such thing as gender stereotyping, boys are always perfectly happy to wear pink clothes and play with pink toys and read books with girl protagonists and the issues are all dreamed up by bitter, twisted sexless feminists? Will somebody lend me some rose tinted glasses?

yellowpostitnote · 02/12/2016 19:37

If we are going to get into colours, technically, purple doesn't exist....

yellowpostitnote · 02/12/2016 19:37

*...

BertrandRussell · 02/12/2016 19:39

And it's perfectly possible that o think something is worth doing something about without being upset by it.

Incidentally, men tend not to use words like "upset" and others with emotional charge when discussing things. Just saying.

SpeakNoWords · 02/12/2016 19:52

Ah, the wine explains a lot MsJamieFraser.

As an aside, I've never heard the phrase "chewed" to mean "bothered" before. Interesting.

MsJamieFraser · 02/12/2016 19:58

Erm, no it does not, considering I haven't even opened the bottle yet!

I'm Scottish, not sure if its a dialect thing, however as they say, every day is a learning day Grin

Anyway must go and have fun, dh off out to the boxing a "sport" I just dont understnad so I get to Mn and enjoy the peace and quiet.

maddiemookins16mum · 02/12/2016 20:02

Goodness, another reason schools get sooooo pissed off with ridiculous parents moaning about petty things all the time.
Nope, not read the whole thread, the OP was enough.

SpeakNoWords · 02/12/2016 20:04

I think most parents are concerned about what our children get taught, and what attitudes surround them on a daily basis. School staff can surely empathise enough with parents to understand that, I would have thought.

Patriciathestripper1 · 02/12/2016 20:06

Offs pink is for girls and blue is for boys. Bet if boys were given pink there would be a few raised eyebrows....Xmas Grin

LivingOnTheDancefloor · 02/12/2016 20:12

I just realized I painted my DCs room purple thinking it is a mix of blue and pink so perfect for boy & girl together Grin
Didn't realize it was viewed as a girl colour...

SpeakNoWords · 02/12/2016 20:14

Ffs why are people so determined to enforce this gender coding? Why is it necessary?

One day we might be developed enough as a society to just have a range of colours that are for anyone, with no coding of gender attached.

Lorelei76 · 02/12/2016 20:15

I tried to learn boxing but it aggravated (what I thought was gone) tendon problems
Sorry, thinking aloud
But actually they do sell pink boxing gloves, I remember being directed to them when I first went to get some.
Small wonder the wimmin's biro was not far behind....

honeysucklejasmine · 02/12/2016 20:27

Offs pink is for girls and blue is for boys. Bet if boys were given pink there would be a few raised eyebrows....

Well quite. Because being thought to be like a girl is a terrible thing. sigh The world we live in is not a good one.

Raging at the tractor picture nursery incident. Angry

Floggingmolly · 02/12/2016 20:31

Raging?

Lorelei76 · 02/12/2016 20:43

"But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading
Because you think being a girl is degrading"

Room for me in the car, Madge?

Charlottelouisa · 02/12/2016 21:05

Wow! Pink is for girls and blue is for boys? Isn't it? What is the problem?

honeysucklejasmine · 02/12/2016 21:35

Yes, raging. Perhaps not in the literal sense, but then again I didn't say I was literally raging. Grin It makes me very angry.

yellowpostitnote · 02/12/2016 22:01

...what's the problem?

Eolian · 02/12/2016 22:36

Jesus. I'm not normally given to outbursts on here, but how can people be so fucking thick-headed. Pink isn't for girls. Blue isn't for boys. They are colours. There is no earthly reason that a colour should have anything whatsoever to do with what sex you are. Why would it? Just because some chump decided to market things that way... how long ago? Not that long, in the grand scheme of things, as far as I'm aware. Why should we stick with it? How would you feel if someone decided chocolate was for boys and aubergines were for girls? Or that boys should have pet dogs but girls should have stick insects? Sounds stupid, doesn't it? But it is no more stupid than deciding particular colours should be assigned to particular sexes.

Eolian · 02/12/2016 22:37

Oh according to a brief internet search it was in 1927 btw.

BertrandRussell · 02/12/2016 22:50

So, your little girl chooses a picture of a tractor for her peg at nursery. The teacher says, Oh, you can't have that- it's a boy's picture.We haven't got many tractors and the boys won't want a rainbow or a butterfly so you choose one of those"

Please tell me that would make you cross. Please tell me you wouldn't just say to your girl "Come on, sweetie, leave those pictures for the boys. You have one of these"

WouldHave · 02/12/2016 22:57

Goodness, another reason schools get sooooo pissed off with ridiculous parents moaning about petty things all the time.

School staff who got pissed off with this one would be revealing themselves as both arrogant and thick.

GravyAndShite · 02/12/2016 23:36

I get the tractor thing, but don't understand the drama about the colour coded payment cards.

Casz · 03/12/2016 03:42

Giving out two different colours of cards seems to generate extra work for the office staff, so there must be a reason for it.

Most likely, they have a set number of spaces for boys and girls, based on room sizes, so they can quickly and easily identify whether they have the right spaces available to allocate, especially if more than one person may be issuing the cards.

Imagine you are running a trip for a maximum of 32 children. On a day trip, you would allocate the spaces until you have 32 filled.

However, on a residential trip the children have to sleep in single sex rooms, so you decide to allocate 16 boy spaces and 16 girl spaces. It would not be possible to accept a 17th boy or girl on the trip, as there would not be a bed in the right room, even though there would be an available seat on the coach.

In a busy school office, by allocating colours, it would be easier to see that you have so many boy-spaces and so many girl-spaces available so you don't inadvertently accept a child that you can't allocate a bed to.

The school could have chosen a different colour-coding system, but it would still mean colour A = girls and colour B = boys.

No system is perfect. Perhaps we should wait for the thread that begins, "I was late returning the form for my child's residential trip and now they can't go because they are a boy, but my friend's daughter has been given a space."