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To not know how to deal with a difficult colleague

42 replies

Olivia1971 · 30/11/2016 16:54

So I am on a committee for a PTA and small local charity for small business. I have been out of work for a while and one of the committees I am involved in has a particular skill and area and contacts that has a good chance in helping me to gain work in the future.

I enjoy it, have made friends in a new area and feel like I have been helping. However committee roles have been given out, we have a new president, and I'm secretary. The president is a very difficult woman to get on with, although on paper we have a lot in common and you would think we would get on, and sent me some emails I found very rude and patronising.

I get the feeling she has a real personal dislike of me. She will talk to everyone else at meetings bar me, wont smile or say hello when I try to talk to her and the emails were in a tone that are different to the emails everyone else gets. When I sent an email out she felt was part of her role, she sent me a very curt email demanding I respect the roles of other members, and that in future all communication go through her first. This particular task is not mentioned in her job description, and in fact, though not specifically mentioned in mine, is similar to the other tasks in mine, and would be reasonable to assume is down to me so I think she is in the wrong. She has been a part of this a lot longer than me so I may be wrong, but double checked and it would seem the paperwork back me up.

I asked her if I had offended her in any way, apologised if I had and asked for her to alter her tone of her emails. I was pleasant and not rude. I got one back basically telling me I'm overstepping and a nightmare with a load of exclamation marks. I explained that I find exclamation marks in formal emails rude, as it denotes shouting (it did in this context) and that we should treat email as we would a face to face conversation, and that, could she please not use them in future. Not the greatest thing to say, but I was upset, and have apologised.

We have been back and forth, we me at every stage asking to put any bad feeling behind us, start over and be cordial with one another. I have apologised for any disagreement and stated I hate conflict could we please start over.

She is now emailing me, telling me I am not to talk to her except in meetings (makes my role impossible) and that she will be raising a motion to vote me off the committee if I don't immediately resign. She has made me feel like a monster when I have spent four emails apologising and trying to smooth things over. I am sick at the thought of having to see her now and go to these meetings. I feel the hours I have put in are wasted, that she will turn the friends I have on the committee against me. I am confident my emails will be seen as reasonable but nothing I seem to try (stroking her ego, apologising, accepting blame when I was not entirely in the wrong) has helped.

I hate the thought someone could dislike me so intently for no reason. I have no confidence, have been in abusive relationships, have anxiety and have felt socially isolated. This is where I stretch my brain and I am feeling I have no choice but to leave as no matter what I do this woman will no co-operate with me. I am so embarrassed and a bit hurt.

What do I do?

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questioningitall · 30/11/2016 16:58

Stop emails and either call or see her face to face. Emails are notoriously difficult to misinterpret. Tone can be wildly inaccurate.

Sorry you're going through this. She sounds like a nightmare. I really think you have to front her out in person. Good luck!

mumonashoestring · 30/11/2016 17:00

Honestly? If you're certain that you have been nothing but polite and accommodating, I'd take copies of the emails to a meeting, table them as a discussion point and ask for a set policy of courteous communication within the group - let the bullying bitch try and justify her actions in public.

She's threatened by you for some reason (possibly has heard rumours that your skillset somehow exceeds hers?) and is hoping you'll quietly fuck off without causing any fuss. It's up to you if you want to take that route but if she tried tabling a motion to dismiss a committee member with an executive role in any of the committees I'm involved with, without a concrete reason such as misconduct, she'd get shot down in flames.

BiscuitMillionaire · 30/11/2016 17:01

What an awful bully! If you still actually want to work for free on their committee, then I would reply something like 'Please email me the grounds you have for voting me off the committee - I am curious to see this, as I am sure will be the rest of the committee members, when I send them copies of our email correspondence.' If the rest of the committee do read the emails, what will they see? She is probably feeling threatened by you being good at your job. Chin up!

Colby43443 · 30/11/2016 17:01

Send the emails to HR and file a grievance.

MaxPepsi · 30/11/2016 17:01

Do nothing.

It sounds like she's jealous of you and sees you as a threat to her self proclaimed importance.

She'll end up shooting herself in the foot.

If anyone says anything just smile and say unfortunately we seem to clash and as I'm still fairly new I'm happy to take a backseat and continue to learn.

happypoobum · 30/11/2016 17:02

No offence to any lovely PTA members here,but I have found quite a few PTA leaders to be absolute cunts.

Life is too short - leave her to it, but send a letter to the HT explaining that you are leaving because of her outrageous cuntiness. Flowers

BiscuitMillionaire · 30/11/2016 17:03

Don't call or see her face to face! If you do you'll have no evidence trail of her behaviour, just your word against hers.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 30/11/2016 17:03

I would not call her or meet her in any situation where you don't have witnesses.

MaxPepsi · 30/11/2016 17:03

In fact, forget that last bit of the sentence. You don't need to say that at all.

CoraPirbright · 30/11/2016 17:04

When the agenda for the next meeting is sent around perhaps you could forward all the emails to the committee and ask for this to be made an item under AOB or something.

But to be honest, she sounds such a nightmare, do you think you are ever going to be able to have a constructive relationship with her? Also, I do wonder how others view this woman - I would be willing to bet others find her tricky too.

As an aside, do exclamation points really mean shouting? I always thought it was when something was in caps.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 30/11/2016 17:04

Tell her you have no intention of resigning and to raise that motion.
Stand your ground. Make multiple copies of her emails to circulate when she tries to blackball you/vote of no confidence

RichardBucket · 30/11/2016 17:04

I do wonder what her side of the story would say.

Other people on the committee must have seen some of these emails - what do they think? Have any of them voiced an opinion?

What history is there between you and this woman?

mammybops · 30/11/2016 17:05

Print all the emails and take them to the next meeting to exhibit the way she speaks to you and how you tried to smooth it out for a functional working relationship. Also take a device that can display emails so she can't claim you've doctored the print offs.

Be clear in the next meeting that you value the whole committee and the work they do and wish to continue working together.

Unfortunately there is a mob mentality to voluntary committees and little accountable.

Good luck Flowers

OohhThatsMe · 30/11/2016 17:06

Does the Head have much of a role in the PTA? I was Chair of the PTA years ago and my HT would've dealt with something like that pronto.

Can you stay involved in the charity but leave the PTA?

One thing I've found at the school gate is that there's always a bully in the PTA - when I was Chair it was someone who didn't have a formal role but made everyone jump through hoops.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 30/11/2016 17:06

You haven't been tempted to forward her emails and your responses to the rest of the committee, have you, OP?

I would have. Blush

BadKnee · 30/11/2016 17:08

I know it isn't her because I am not involved in any committees BUT I feel as if I know the woman! A nightmare to deal with.

Agree face to face is better than e-mails. Is there anything you share? A love of opera or football? Would a drink on neutral territory help?

Also she may be feeling pushed out. It isn't nice if you have been doing something and someone comes in and appears to take over. (I am not saying you have done that just that she may feel that).

Or you may have to leave!

Olivia1971 · 30/11/2016 17:10

My anxiety is so bad I hate face to face conversations when there is conflict. I haven't had a reply to my last email, with questions I need answers to before next week, and again another apology at the bottom and a request to 'start over'.

The thought of even opening my inbox is sending my anxiety through the roof. I am using this as an almost practice for the workplace, as I know there will always be difficult colleagues but this is insane.

If I don't get a reply I wont be prepared for this meeting properly, will let others down and will look unprofessional and incapable. So not quite the confidence builder my therapist suggested. I don't want to email her again, or even face her, but I'll have to. I'm dreading both a response from her and no response - its an awful feeling.

I'm a bit of a people pleaser and the thought that someone dislikes me affects me more than it should. I know I need to work on that. I thought given what we have in common we may have been friends but I was sooo wrong there.

I don't have her number or address. No idea what I can do to make this better - or move forward.

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Yamadori · 30/11/2016 17:11

Since she is the Chair, the only way you can go is up. If this is the PTA, then you could raise it with the school governors, if it is the charity, then involve the patrons. Both lots would want to know that their chair is behaving in this way.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 30/11/2016 17:15

I like the suggestion about going to the board of governors.

It would not be unreasonable imo for you not to attend the next meeting and instead to raise your concerns with the BoG and/or patron.

And stop apologising to her. She probably gets off on that.

SapphireStrange · 30/11/2016 17:15

I agree with mumon; take the moral high ground (FWIW I think you already have it) and have it dealt with openly and professionally.

GissASquizz · 30/11/2016 17:15

Stop apologising. She's probably loving that. This is your anxiety pushing forward. One apology is enough. An adult accepts a well meant apology and gets the fuck on with the task at hand. A nasty vindictive bully hypes the drama. She is not fit for purpose. I'd raise it at the meeting and see if you get back up. If not, walk away. Life is too short and there will be other opportunities.

Olivia1971 · 30/11/2016 17:17

No history between us, never met her before this.

Get on great with everybody else. No issues whatsoever.

I know my emails can sometimes be long, but some of that is questions and some of the questions she asked demanded lengthy explanations. Again I have said I will be more concise where I can.

I haven't showed anyone the correspondence as it was between the two of us. I have told the head we are experiencing some difficulties, but that I am trying to work through it, but that was before she demanded I resign.

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Pidlan · 30/11/2016 17:18

print out emails and take them in to the meeting. If you feel insecure, ask if you can take a supportive friend in to sit with you. She is a bully by the sounds of it, and given that you have proof of that, you are in the strongest position by far.

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 30/11/2016 17:20

Can you go back to the head?

I wonder if she's totes fecking incompetent and is frightened of being "found out".

Do you know why your predecessor left the role?

DartmoorDoughnut · 30/11/2016 17:20

Accidentally hit 'reply all' and ask her why she is bullying you Flowers